Theoretically 5s like the other 120 abrams’
Same gun, same turret, and same crew complement (?)
I hope people talk about this in the comments, because this is just sad.
Its obvious that they are using the wrong information for this vehicle.
This is the M735 situation all over again.
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How is it still not fixed?
What a joke, there is no information that states the 120S prototype that existed had the standard GPPS let alone even an installed FCS.
The only sight ever stated to be purposed or even installed on the 120S is the GPPTS.
I really should not be surprised at this point that another US MBT is coming in a butchered state due to gaijin just flat out ignoring documentation as this has become par for the course.
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Can’t forget it somehow has DU ammo even though its intended for export, and is based on an M60 not an E60 even though its for export to nations that don’t use the M60, oh and the Sight still not being set up properly.
honestly the Super M60, M60AX or (at a stretch) Leonardo’s M60 SLEP would have been a better fit for a Tech tree variant.
I don’t recall it having DU armor on dev, just base M1A1 armor.
Did this change on dev without me knowing?
I am aware that supposedly it had a export package armo
Looks like the gunner’s sight situation might change hopefully. So that might be 1/3rd of the issues resolved, missing the hull ammo removal and the engine upgrade still though.
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Busted? It’s an M60 AMBT that’s slower with a better turret.
It’s a way slower Ariete P with a better round.
It’s a slower ZTZ 96A with less armor and a better round.
@Lolman345
The only incorrect part of it would be the turret armor.
M60 120S is cited to have the same ammo storage capacity as M1A1, it cannot have that without hull storage.
I’m banging my head so hard right now
“Final production variant never existed,so no Gen 2 Thermals,no 1200hp engine”
And yet,the Yak-141 exists with most of the features it has that were never installed. But obviously a mock-up of a plane is still more realistic than a model that was built and exposed WITH A FULL FUNCTIONING 1200HP ENGINE AND GEN F***ING 2 THERMALS
God Forbid that USA can have a competent 10.0/10.3 tank,that bracket is reserved exclusively to the KVT/Pzbtl/TURMS/Christian II/2S38 players
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INCORRECT LOUD BUZZER
At this point i’m even too tired to say what’s wrong with your incessant yapping regarding this vehicle and the state of US top tier,your blatant anti-US sentiment speaks for you
it wasn’t a mock up
Oh i’m sorry! I didn’t know that the mere existence of 4 different prototypes that only had some flights made the case for Gaijin to implement both an HMD and a IRST, technologies that were absent during the prototype stages.
But yeah,USSR and other nations can have their gimped “assumed” mechanics,but when the USA needs to have a tank historically balanced (therefore buffing it),God Forbid that and it gets artificially nerfed with made-up assumptions
Good
It was planned to enter service and was planed to be used unlike other prototypes the plane fully functioned and set records
“planned” but never actually did it,the same thing is applied to the 120S
Planned to be bought by either Turkey or Egypt,never bought it by those two countries.
You so love double standards,do you?
@iMatty01
Not sure why you want to nerf the maximum amount of rounds M60 120S has when sources clearly state it has at least 40 rounds of 120mm munition.
Also sorry to burst your bubble, but Americans aren’t anti-USA.
Me defending American equipment from demands to nerf it isn’t anti-USA.
Also bring up Ho-229 or Kikka instead of Yak-141, Ho-229 and Kikka are the OGs.
where are my double standards
Im just talking about the Yak41
Your double standards is accepting that a prototype plane is present in the game as a final production variant (that IRL never existed physically) and refusing that an US tank can do the same, ignoring how they’re releasing a butchered tank
Oh so 350 million of people all worship USA and never criticise it?all of them follows the same principles?no one with a different opinion? Yeah sure buddy,this scapegoat of “i’m American,i can’t be anti-American” is complete BS and even you refuse to fully believe it,thus you think that you can fool me or that i’m a clown
You literally never said that
You refuse to acknowledge that this tank rolled out to IDEF with a 1200hp engine. You refuse to think that the SepV3 has DU hull. You refuse to believe that the Abrams needs the M900 because “muh it’s balanced for me” which SPOILER:it isn’t. I have a ton of proof of you sharing the sentiment of nerfing USA,so please be more intelligent because the proofs of you lying are under the Sun
I can bring every vehicle that isn’t supposed to be in the game or to be in the state as it’s presented,you’ll notice that the ones that are artificially nerfed are either American,Israelians,French or Italian. And, would you look at that, Gaijin’s preferred children are unscathed
Side note: you literally refuse to think that the reason why US WR are so bad also resides in bad vehicles to their BR. But no, let’s all have a scapegoat by saying that US WR are trash only because there’s the premium spam
Where did i say that
i think your thinking of someone else
This
You’re clearly defending the state of the Yak-141 in game,for me it’s enough proof to believe your defense of the butchered state of this upcoming tank
Unless you have a different opinion
i know nothing on the IRL M60-120 S and don’t know if its correct to how it would be or not but assuming due to the existence to this thread its not and reports should be made
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