The M60-120S was announced, what to expect?

My thoughts on the future of this vehicle are not very good.

Right now,it is busted at 10.0,so i expect its BR to raise to 10.3/10.7. But it absolutely doesn’t have the mobility to keep up,so at 10.3 you’re basically a moving half-bunker asking to be shot.

If they MAYBE listened to reason and gave it KE-W and the 1200hp+Allison combo and put it at 10.3/10.7,it would’ve been balanced.

But no,they need to forcefully swallow the KVT/Wolfpack/Clickbait combo to other people,they aren’t satisfied with the absolute damage they’ve dealt to US win rates. And let’s not talk about the privilege treatment the Leo2A4 gets

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So gaijin has ahistorically downgraded the 120S’s GPS from gen 2 to gen 1 on dev.

Ironic that they had it correct to begin with.

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And yet they still think that the direct competitor of the Sabra III had a 1960s engine…

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[DEV] 120S Gunner’s Primary Sight Incorrectly Downgraded // Gaijin.net // Issues

Bug report is up, but knowing gaijin they wont take a Raytheon brochure at face value so if someone has the direct link to that other 120S brochure I can add that in and that would be the two required sources.

More would always be appreciated.

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M829A1, 56t w/ 750hp.

of all things the US tree needed it was not more glass cannons.

Wonder what its reload rate will be.

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My god,even the History of the vehicle is poorly written,i know where they got those info and they decided to write a shorter paragraph only because they don’t want people to assume that this vehicle is not accurate to the IRL part.

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Theoretically 5s like the other 120 abrams’

Same gun, same turret, and same crew complement (?)

I hope people talk about this in the comments, because this is just sad.

Its obvious that they are using the wrong information for this vehicle.

This is the M735 situation all over again.

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How is it still not fixed?

What a joke, there is no information that states the 120S prototype that existed had the standard GPPS let alone even an installed FCS.

The only sight ever stated to be purposed or even installed on the 120S is the GPPTS.

I really should not be surprised at this point that another US MBT is coming in a butchered state due to gaijin just flat out ignoring documentation as this has become par for the course.

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Can’t forget it somehow has DU ammo even though its intended for export, and is based on an M60 not an E60 even though its for export to nations that don’t use the M60, oh and the Sight still not being set up properly.

honestly the Super M60, M60AX or (at a stretch) Leonardo’s M60 SLEP would have been a better fit for a Tech tree variant.

I don’t recall it having DU armor on dev, just base M1A1 armor.

Did this change on dev without me knowing?

I am aware that supposedly it had a export package armo

Looks like the gunner’s sight situation might change hopefully. So that might be 1/3rd of the issues resolved, missing the hull ammo removal and the engine upgrade still though.

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Busted? It’s an M60 AMBT that’s slower with a better turret.
It’s a way slower Ariete P with a better round.
It’s a slower ZTZ 96A with less armor and a better round.

@Lolman345
The only incorrect part of it would be the turret armor.
M60 120S is cited to have the same ammo storage capacity as M1A1, it cannot have that without hull storage.

I’m banging my head so hard right now
“Final production variant never existed,so no Gen 2 Thermals,no 1200hp engine”

And yet,the Yak-141 exists with most of the features it has that were never installed. But obviously a mock-up of a plane is still more realistic than a model that was built and exposed WITH A FULL FUNCTIONING 1200HP ENGINE AND GEN F***ING 2 THERMALS

God Forbid that USA can have a competent 10.0/10.3 tank,that bracket is reserved exclusively to the KVT/Pzbtl/TURMS/Christian II/2S38 players

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INCORRECT LOUD BUZZER

At this point i’m even too tired to say what’s wrong with your incessant yapping regarding this vehicle and the state of US top tier,your blatant anti-US sentiment speaks for you

it wasn’t a mock up

Oh i’m sorry! I didn’t know that the mere existence of 4 different prototypes that only had some flights made the case for Gaijin to implement both an HMD and a IRST, technologies that were absent during the prototype stages.

But yeah,USSR and other nations can have their gimped “assumed” mechanics,but when the USA needs to have a tank historically balanced (therefore buffing it),God Forbid that and it gets artificially nerfed with made-up assumptions

Good

It was planned to enter service and was planed to be used unlike other prototypes the plane fully functioned and set records

“planned” but never actually did it,the same thing is applied to the 120S

Planned to be bought by either Turkey or Egypt,never bought it by those two countries.

You so love double standards,do you?