The 6.7 BR bracket is heavily compressed
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Aint that the truth. 6.7 - 7.7 needs to be much more spread out
would love to face the Pershing in downtiers of 5.3… sounds really “swell” /s, considering the Pershing was the answer to the tiger 2 they should be the same BR, the later developments past them like the super Pershing should be 7.0 just like the up-gunned Tiger 2 105 or the Panther II are respectively at 7.0…
the Tiger 105 gains a whopping 14mm of more pen in exchange for an extremely longer reload than the 88mm and a higher Battlerating.
meanwhile the Super pershing gains additional armor and 39mm more of pen for the same reload and the same BR
Ah yes, the Pershing was the answer to a tank the designers didn’t know existed.
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truly allied scientists were omnipotent
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The Pershing is slower than the Tiger II, the Super Pershing is even less mobile thanks to the added weight. The Super Pershing also has notable weak points such as below the applique turret “flaps”, the hatches on the hull, the MG port, the exposed elevation drive etc.
The Panther G (and other variants) have more penetration and comparable frontal armor and are also way more mobile, and yet they sit at BR 6.0 or lower. Sure they have weaker side armor but most things that kill a Panther from the side will also kill a Pershing… not to mention the Pershing also has notable weak points just like any other tank in the game. I see literally zero issues with 5.3 vehicles fighting the regular M26 Pershing in a down-tier.
Take a look at the Panther D firing APHE vs the M26 at 500 m:
PT-76B firing HEAT-FS vs M26 at 500 m:
ISU-122 firing APHE vs M26 at 500 m:
ARL-44 firing AP vs M26 at 500 m:
Are you seeing a pattern?
All of the above vehicles are 5.3 and can penetrate the M26 frontally with little issue at 500 m. These same vehicles struggle against Tiger II variants and even Panthers.
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Pershing is fine where it is
Super Pershing is uparmored at the cost of way worse mobility. And upgunned at the cost of a much longer reload
And let’s be real t26e5 could easily goto 7.0 and be fine. Only reason it’s still 6.7 is because idiot US players hold W and surprise pikachu face die 1min after spawn
Still better than similar tanks like t44
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it was the answer to the Tiger 1 and panther tanks. The t29 series was the answer
for the tiger 2
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well t44 has better armor tho
T44 has slightly better effective hull armor at the cost of worse effective turret armor. and far worse survivability since any penetrating hits to turret kills the crew
t44 also has worse round, worse gun depression, worse gun handling etc
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lmao are u trolling? Pershing has much better mobility especially in reverse. Pershing turret is more trolly and bounces way more rounds than any panther. Pershing hull armor is better. Especially sides being 50% thicker helps a lot to bounce rounds coming at an angle that would otherwise overmatch panther side armor. M82 has way better postpen (5x explosive mass btw)
Almost like the Pershing is better than the tank it was designed to counter huh. If you don’t hold W and charge facefirst into everything like the average room temperature IQ US main pershing is amazing. And it’s not even the best 6.7 on US tbh
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It is far from amazing. It is average when compared to many other 6.7 vehicles. The T-44 is a similar case. You just said it yourself: there are better 6.7 US tanks. It is not a question of “this tank has a lot of good attributes but I am saying it is bad”, it is more that there are much more powerful tanks both in the US lineup and in other tech trees. Really more of a BR compression issue.
It is pretty damn good though. The better ones like t26e5 absolutely should go up rather than the m26 going down
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Maybe that is the route to go. Major BR decompression. Choose which 6.7 vehicles stay and choose which need to go up to 7.0 - 7.3. Of course, that would require a shift of everything above 6.7 as well, which is a big task. They’re already moving French 6.7 vehicles like the AMX M4 up to 7.0 soon.
Do the same analysis. But uncheck "Consider vertical camera angle. You are holding the camera too high.
As someone who has used the M26, I find it to actually be good for its BR.
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Gotcha. Let me try again. I agree that it isn’t terrible for the BR, but it is simply outclassed.
the reality is that 6.7-8.7 needs severe decompression by moving everything else up significantly.
Moving the pershing to Tiger 1 BR areas is an insane take
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Considering the 76mm Jumbo is 6.3 and the T26E5 has a more powerfull gun and much better armor, it sure seems logical.
It’s practically a mini T32. Just slower.
The T-64 was built as an answer to the Leopard 1 and M60. Should the T-64 be 8.0 then?
Because… the M26 is some godly unpenetrable tank to you?
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