The M26 Pershing belongs at 6.3 (Ground RB)

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lmao are u trolling? Pershing has much better mobility especially in reverse. Pershing turret is more trolly and bounces way more rounds than any panther. Pershing hull armor is better. Especially sides being 50% thicker helps a lot to bounce rounds coming at an angle that would otherwise overmatch panther side armor. M82 has way better postpen (5x explosive mass btw)

Almost like the Pershing is better than the tank it was designed to counter huh. If you don’t hold W and charge facefirst into everything like the average room temperature IQ US main pershing is amazing. And it’s not even the best 6.7 on US tbh

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It is far from amazing. It is average when compared to many other 6.7 vehicles. The T-44 is a similar case. You just said it yourself: there are better 6.7 US tanks. It is not a question of “this tank has a lot of good attributes but I am saying it is bad”, it is more that there are much more powerful tanks both in the US lineup and in other tech trees. Really more of a BR compression issue.

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It is pretty damn good though. The better ones like t26e5 absolutely should go up rather than the m26 going down

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Maybe that is the route to go. Major BR decompression. Choose which 6.7 vehicles stay and choose which need to go up to 7.0 - 7.3. Of course, that would require a shift of everything above 6.7 as well, which is a big task. They’re already moving French 6.7 vehicles like the AMX M4 up to 7.0 soon.

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Do the same analysis. But uncheck "Consider vertical camera angle. You are holding the camera too high.

As someone who has used the M26, I find it to actually be good for its BR.

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Gotcha. Let me try again. I agree that it isn’t terrible for the BR, but it is simply outclassed.

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the reality is that 6.7-8.7 needs severe decompression by moving everything else up significantly.

Moving the pershing to Tiger 1 BR areas is an insane take

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Considering the 76mm Jumbo is 6.3 and the T26E5 has a more powerfull gun and much better armor, it sure seems logical.

It’s practically a mini T32. Just slower.

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The T-64 was built as an answer to the Leopard 1 and M60. Should the T-64 be 8.0 then?

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Because… the M26 is some godly unpenetrable tank to you?

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panther to 4.7 when? you can frontally pen it with a m10 is it some godly unpenetrable tank to you?

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panther has much stronger frontal profile than m26, m26 was also historically 6.3 for like 7 years and didnt cause issues being 6.3.

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m26 has better hull and turret armor lmao. and panthers were 5.3-5.7 for 7 years as well so whats your point?

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not really, panther hull is impenetrable far beyond when you can pen m26 hull.

panthers were undertiered AND causing issues, m26 never caused issues and wasnt undertiered

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lolno. panther has to aim for mg port or lfp to reliably pen m26 meanwhile m26 can go for turret, lfp and ufp at medium ranges. m26 never caused issues because the average us player is blind and cant fking hit the side of a barn at 500m

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People keep arguing that it should stay 6.7, but when you bring up the M4A2(76)W with the 76 Jumbo they go quiet.

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Its typical when ppl who like a tank, immediately want BR reduced. All tanks suffer on up tiers. Comparing Pershing to Tiger I is just pure desperation. A lot of txt here but no stats…there you go:

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67% win ratio, almost 3 frags per battle on RB… its pure killer. Now IS-1 and Tiger I for example have 2.1 and 2.5 kills per battle with 42% and 45% win ratio… so what will happen if pershing which appears on limited number on their battles now will go on full team mode.

Also you can check win rates in general for each BR brackets per nation:

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USmain M26 cope post #8
Why are these allowed to be spammed in such quantity?

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Panther hull is getting obliterated by 5.7 Jumbo,wtf u talking about.

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what