They have the F-2. But fair enough
isnt the F-2 an F-16? I dont know anything about that topic
edit: oohh just looked it up, interesting, its based on an F-16 but it isnt, thats fair
Well it seems like you hate the whole world then
Have you ever heard about “procurement” and “export”? There are only a select number of nations in the world which fully produce their own equipment, even US equipment uses parts or even whole vehicles from other nations.
The times of technology-based tech trees are long gone. They are called nation-trees for a reason.
How losing identity? They were never vehicles from these nations. They were export variants, a lot of times different from the exporter nations’ own equipment.
This is exactly what this discussion is about.
The current M1A1 AIM in-game (with the Aussie flag) actually isn’t the Aussie variant in its current in-game implementation, but the service variant of the USMC!
Meanwhile all but 1 vehicle from the Australian nation are in the UK nation tree.
Why not add it to there and make the current US one actually one used and designed by the USA?
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its got KEW-A1 and apparently its turret armor is slightly worse
they are vehicles from those nations unless the Abrams is no longer an American MBT and the T-72 is no longer a Soviet MBT
so they couldve brought more variety to the exporter’s tree while keeping the identity? sounds like a good thing to add it to the exporter then
who calls them that? everyone says tech tree
yes, but it’s not the configuration exported to Australia, there are many things wrong with it. It most closely resembles the USMC one.
No? It’s not a service variant of the US army or any other branch. Belgium can’t claim its exported armoured fighting vehicles, why should the US? All British exported MBT’s are also not put into britain itself, neither are German or USSR ones. It’s a distinctly Australian variant.
That’s my bad, they are called tech trees most often, even by gaijin.
The US tech tree badly needs more of its own equimpent added, they are missing tons of their domesticly used MBT’s tbh, especially variants.
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something in wot
theres the FEP, SA, and SEPv3 for the US.
interesting, did not know that
i mean its still an American tank regardless. i think export variants, being made by the exporter, have a place as tech tree vehicles if theres a gap that could really be filled by it, otherwise they can take the place of service vehicles as squadron, event, and premium vehicles
That’s a fair argument to make. I don’t fully agree, but I do see the merit in that. Personally I’d like this, but not when the importing nation has their equipment spread around multiple tech trees like Canada and Australia. They should have at least 1 tech tree where these are all available (which in WT sense would be the British tech tree).
It’s just that the USMC variant of the M1A1 AIM is very similar to the Australian one, so I never saw the point of it being added to the US tech tree. As a USA tech tree player I would have rather had a USMC variant like we see with the stuart.
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another thing nation folders would solve lol.
thats a fair point too. having a USMC M1A1 AIM tt and the Australian one as a squadron vehicle would also work imo. i really dont like seeing stuff like the F/A-18C early as premium since it couldve been a great TT hornet in Gulf War configuration. if they had the CF-18 or EF-18 as the US’s premium instead that couldve happened
Yes please!
It could, but then we’d have like 16 different abrams in the future, discounting the funny prototypes. Like I said before, having a line-up is quite important to a lot of people that play these nations like Australia, Canada (or in the past South africa too).
Maybe in a few more years we’ll have nation folders…
There are more US-unique variants abound for the F/A-18 without having to touch exports… Let’s not derail here haha
Note: when the game decompresses a lot more, then we could have more F/A-18’s, but now it’s too saturated tbh.
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Unfortunately yes. And they banned, removed, and suspended just about every post arguing against it because only the Chinese player base is allowed to demand their vehicles not go to other trees.
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Fair enough +1
i mean its just the Australian one as a squadron tank and then the rest can be US. the premium is a direct copy of the tt one so that isnt a real issue. maybe have an Australian skin for the SEPv3
You didn’t show proof, though. What you showed is the ability to quote something and interpret it at face value.
Are we seriously going to bend the meaning of proof lmao, how low can you go ?
But hey at least I can show my “evidence” I haven’t seen yours yet over hours of waiting lol
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Prove my dude, the only proof you said was something we all knew. Commonwealth vehicles would.
The M1A2 Aims is not a Commonwealth vehicle; it was never produced in Australia. It was manufactured in the United States. I don’t know how many times I need to reiterate this. But then i’ll keep going since i know you are gonna stand on a baseless face value statement.
It is, if a vehicle being operated by a Commonwealth nation say Australia that make it an Australian vehicle regardless if it was home made or imported by another nations manufacturer. Australia not only is part of the Commonwealth of nations but still has the British king as head of state.
I’m still waiting for your side’s proof but hey I’m not the one saying this is a pointless argument but yet never quitting from it, if you truly believe in yourself and your side then why did you even bother replying in the first place ?
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If it was operated and produced, except they only operated. They didn’t produce anything.
The King has no power or authority because the Monarchy stopped having control; it’s nothing but a figurehead while the Prime Minister runs everything below.
It’s no different from Japan’s Monarchy. They are figureheads, not people in power.
In my eyes if a nation has brought said tank for example let’s make some countries something up.
If the Kingdom of Largur has brought say 50 tanks from Kinlar and put their flags on it and operated them, would they still be a Kinlar tank or a Largur tank ?
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