The Leopard 2A4 should be reissued with DM33 ammunition

From what Smin told me a while ago, it’s in a queue so a “matter of time”.

Not really mate.
2A4 is a solid 10.7 if not th ebest 10.7 in the game, it’s lacking nothing

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Another issue, this goes for all the german leopards only the swedish and italian leopards for some reason are not affected, is that any shot through the breach and barrel will cause secondary spall to kill the commander or loader. It should only stop at the breach and cause no spalling after like every other MBT but for some reason only german leopards have this bug

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/J2Jvs5hL6I20

Please don’t tell me this is a designed nerf to the germans just like the 6 second reload :(

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It is, yeah.

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iirc its something left over from 2A5/6 domination period.

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Devs forgetting to undo a nerf? Not the first time lol. I don’t expect them to fix it anytime soon

The dev who made said nerf has probably left the company by now
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Just like how I left germany already. No reason to play a nerfed nation. Should of realized Japan top tier ground is nerfed. Now I either start Russia or stick to air.

Honestly Germany is completely fine aside from LDIRCM Heli being absent.
Unfortunately top tier meta is whoever has the most uncontested LDIRCM Helis up wins.
I would recommend China, great overall top tier lineup with M1A2T introduction.
Grind Russia if you are really curious as to how they perform, but spoiler alert, its torture.

I’d imagine its the dumb teammates like USA and Germany suffer from.

Only benefit it good SPAA which is subject to change very soon. Also IRIS-T is still not resistant to LDIRCM so…
And skill goes to waste in top tier when germany loses 9/10 matches against Russia. I’ve seen that at least Japan has a better chance of winning since they get teamed up with Russia more and has su30 cas. Just the Japan has tanks missing armor and SPAA is the worst. I was thinking of China but I still have a personal grudge against them for the VT4 situation. And the devs bloated Russia’s tech tree so much my head hurts thinking of finishing all of ground. If I start another ground tree prob gonna do Italy since they have meme vehicles and up to 10.0 seems fine.

Yes. But also that RU tanks are generally straight azz to play. No reverse, no mobility, no gun handling, no depression, terrible tech, awful reload, etc. The mythical armor they’re held up to have just… doesn’t work xd.

LDIRCM Helis were a mistake I won’t lie. All I can say is wait for the LDIRCM Heli meta to blow over.

Err… exaggerated. Its more like 5.5/10.

I don’t see a point in it. The tree itself did nothing wrong, they’re just vehicles that you can research and play.

I know its just a personal grudge. I just don’t want to be associated with them.
Plus most of China is copy paste from russia. I’d rather start Russia if I want to drive T-series and fly flankers. Also China’s top tier ground apparantly is a little nerfed so what’s the point.

Its more of a blend between US/RU for early ranks, then becomes mostly unique later on:

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China’s top tier isn’t really nerfed tbh. They do well, fun vehicles.

China 9.0 and up is just pure fun man

DTC10 still performs worse than 3BM60, even though it should be better by ~20mm at the very least; Gaijin modelled its penetrator too short.

Evidence was provided proving that the penetrator should longer, but reports are rejected.

ZTZ-99A and WZ1001 are still missing their spall liners (gladfully the VT-4s got them at least).

Gladfully as well, their reload was recently fixed! I wonder if WZ1001 should have the 6.7 second reload too, much like 99A. As I have no info about it, I don’t screech about it, hahah.

They did???

Equals higher BR. It’s already probably the best 10.7

They’re miniscule. End up doing jack sht anyway.

TBH if it ogt the Dm33 it would end up what? 11.0 or 11.3?

Better than nothin mate!

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