The Leopard 2A4 needs DM33 APFSDS

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It does NOT need DM33. It is already tied for the best 10.7 with M1 Abrams.

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Maybe,but when you face BMPT,DM23 doesn’t work well.

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3BM42 is more powerful than DM23.

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not a problem dm33 will solve

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yes but leopards have infinitely better handling and mobility than anything with 3bm42

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You are right.But BMPT really ruined Germany 10.7BR,Germany players almost need to face BMPT every game with Dm23 and extremely weak armor

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bmpt ruined everyone at 10.7 why should only germany be buffed to fix that?

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i guess youd hate italy if you think german armour at 10.7 is weak

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OoooooOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOoooh another “leopard 2a4 needs better darts thread”

almost as common as the “M1 Abrams where M833/M900 thread”

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C1 Ariete (Preserie)is the weakest.That’s true.

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I guess you are BMPT player.We do need better darts thread to defeat the damn BMPT.

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dm53 for 2a4 when
3bm60 for t-64a when
m900 for m60a1 when

lets shellmaxx to the moon

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ive seen neither both vehicles he said listed are just OP and undertiered

first thread ive seen about darts for 2a4 or M1

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I am a SAV 20.12.48 enjoyer, but I have test driven the BMPT-72 once as my only interaction with them

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The American mains asking for M900 on base M1 abrams is hilarious, worth reading one asap for fun

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LOL, yeah, even Russia is arse too play at the moment.

Or better idea, fix the busted damage model of the BMPT so it dies properly.
Buffing the L2A4s dart will just put it up in BR to face more BMPTs and the 12.0 premium hordes.

pretty sure that one cant happen as it physically doesn’t fit in the old autoloader… on an unrelated note dose anybody know if the Type 90s autoloader will fit M829A2? No reason.

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Id rather keep 10.7 Leo 2A4 than have it inevitably go to 11.0 because of DM33.

What should be done is to fix BMPT (mostly its wireless belts).

T-80B and T-80UD arent that much of a problem.

T-80UD especially gives up a lot for its armor - sure its a beast on urban maps, but anywhere else Leo2A4 is the better choice.

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Sabra at 10.0 has a much better round than 3BM42, so lets give everyone there something equivalent ?

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We should have a C Tech 2A4 at 11.3 with upgraded armor and DM33.

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