Different materials impact ammunition differently. You have to remember that it’s 620mm against RHA steel. Finding a 300mm thick of RHA in-game is rather difficult.
Also win-rates are not public information.
Last time i checked there was no Yak-141 equipped with FCS and IRST.
This version of Yak-141 created on assumptions and ifs, whats more funny is except Kikka and Ho-229 (which they were added long time ago when rules for prototypes are completely different) those other vehicles equipped with almost everything they need (not sure about cv90120 since i didnt researched enough)
F-16AJ doesnt exist in any form, this conversation was done in the old forum and people already proved that gaijin went with ‘‘what if’’ policy once again. Just because F-16A-ADF exist doesnt mean F-16AJ suddenly becomes real.
So if gaijin can go with ‘‘what if’’ rules and create a vehicle with assumptions, giving leclerc a better hull armor with armor estimations is not a big deal, its even more realistic then Yak-141 situation actually.
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The rules for prototypes are the same back then as they are today.
Kikka had no guns IRL, nor did Ho-229.
Narval had no guns. And VB.10-02 wasn’t finished.
ST-A1 wasn’t tested with HEATFS.
So yes, everything listed is in-line with Yak-141, it has no special treatment.
Obviously Leclerc should have more armor as I’ve stated since I commented on Leclercs years ago.
However, that does not make any of the listed vehicles “fake”. Two of which are French.
Not really.
Back when those wwıı designs added, policy for prototypes were different. They even stated that multiple times which is why we dont see many prototypes with similiar conditions as long as they can fit tech tree with something else.
İn Yak-141 this wasnt the case, Russian naval aviation line didnt need a plane that didnt have FCS and IRST installed on.
Other vehicles you mentioned only didnt tested with their current ammunition which isnt big of a deal considering all of them of produced with neccesary equipment and control systems.
İf you think certain ammo type didnt tested=Not installing FCS and IRST you must have double standarts in the first place.
Whats more funny is place of IRST on Yak-141 is compeletly fantasy, Soviet engineers didnt even designed proper nose cone for IRST back in the day. İt was suppose to fit with IRST but those ideas never went to reality cause project abondend by that time.
So yea Yak-141 does have special treatment in war thunder whether you like it or not.
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“fake loadouts will never be on an aircraft”
“Mirage 2000 5F”: Hold my beer
They designed him to be a CAS plane like wtf bro he was never designed to be a CAS plane lmfao
AS you mentioned he can carry 4 Magic 2, he have only 2 in the game tho, can we know why ?
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its been reported the 4 magic loadout 18 days ago Community Bug Reporting System but nothing from gaijin yet
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Oh yea that famous fake Mirage 2000 loadout.
Whats more funny is when 2000F introduced Super530F was removed from loadout irl, but guess who didnt care about that.
Some memes are just write themselves.
Just watched the last shooting range episode and i laughed so hard about the fact that Gaijin says that the Mirage is “a very educational plane, it teaches us to spare our ordonnances”.
Maybe it’s the same with the Leclerc. “Sure it’s bad but it’s to teach you how to hide your tank”
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And in my opinion they will not do much, they will always find an excuse not to correct certain vehicles.
Gaijin themselves acknowledged YEARS ago that Leclerc’s UFP was underperforming by about 50% after an exhaustive bug report, yet they refuse to fix it because “according to statistics, Leclerc needs no improvements”. Unfortunately, I can’t find it anymore because bug reports used to be sent to the shadow realm after being passed to the developers, but it happened.
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thats what they keep saying about the reload but other nato tanks also have 6sec reloads with much better rounds
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gajin won’t do anything
it’s been more than a year since i showed that there was a problem on the armor of the S3 with its titanium armor which is also missing, this bug is recognized by gajin
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/3OYYIJZ3sync
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They did. In 2021:
we have taken into account a possible problem with the protection of the upper frontal part of the Leclerc hull and will conduct additional research, according to the results of which we may clarify the stability of the Leclerc hull UFP.
Leclerc’s UFP should provide around 480mm KE, not the ridiculous 290mm it barely currently provides. The tank’s whole center of mass has less protection than Cold War tanks
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That quote refutes your claim & confirms my statement.
all he showed is he is not a France hater
@SPANISH_AVENGER Do you agree with me that Leclerc’s UFP is incorrect?
Cause Panther here claims that’s me pushing misinformation.
And I’m somehow “trolling” for arguing that.
İ already stated many times UFP is underperforming and should be improved.
only you bro im not sure where is us and we are coming from
Then we agree.
Cause all I’ve done is agree with the OP of this page, while giving more information to strengthen his argument.
And I’m being accused of trolling for helping Mobius here, which is helping me.
The only thing he was incorrect on was APFSDS, but that’s only because he was unaware of IRL testing of ammunition.
Turret traverse is among the worst, and it’s accurate. Not sure how NEXTER managed a turret traverse like that, but it seems to suit tankers just fine.