It’s a better version of the SXXI, which people want to sacrifice to prove a point and lock out the best Leclerc until the XLR.
That’s the reason I’ve been saying it should replace the AZUR.
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Stop spreading lies. The Leclerc UAE is not a better version of the SXXI, it doesn’t even have the added protection the SXXI gets, the UAE is based on an S2 with a different engine and gets different sights and other minor changes.
@I_Love_Reisen the Leclerc UAE is not faster than the other Leclercs, especially at low speed.
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Last I knew it was based on the SXXI so I’m going with that. The biggest difference is the potential for internal titanium and gunner protection.
Otherwise it’s very similar to the SXXI and fills the same sense of progression that the AZUR should give but fails. You don’t have to say “Stop spreading lies” as if I’m giving conscious falsehood and as if your opinion overrides mine.
The Tropicalisé/EAU has the same horsepower with similar protection to the AZUR add-on package so it’s a given it would be slower then another Leclerc like the S1 or even SXXI.
Its based on an S2, i have no idea where you readed its based on an SXXI since its clear that the UAE is not an SXXI even if you look at them.
The UAE does not come included with AZUR but it can equip them, just like Scorpion or Clara, so you can assume it will be an S2 with better sight, an europack and possibly a remote roof mounted mg with other additions that not matter in the current game.
The FR Leclercs does not use an Europack and use Hyperbar as an addition, so low-speed would be much better on French Leclercs.
You got me on the Europack being a potential downgrade. I’m not familiar with the differences in low speed performance.
But otherwise the Tropicalisé is functionally closer to what we have with the SXXI in game then to the S2.
I’m still not convinced that it shouldn’t be used to replace the AZUR though. It still provides more uplift in capability then it is a downgrade.
Some models does have increased protection.
For example this version does have thicker gunner side armor just like SXXI.
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Some models = not the base versions which will not added to the game eventualy as a first version, the base UAE, will be similar to a normal S2 protection-wise.
Here is additional photos of the armor kit, this is not the standard UAE nor it will be but its an armor kit.
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Hey, I saw you have reported a bunch of issues regarding Leclerc, are there any updates, I see most of them are acknowledged, but do they even do anything after that?
Nothing for now, i’ll let people know if there are some updates :)
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That is up to Gaijin actually.
Tbh they can actually skip based version and add the version that’s similiar to SXXI.
Or they could add base version as a squadron version and add enchanced version to tech tree.
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According to GIAT/Nexter, the UAE only actually shares 40% of its equipment with the French Leclerc. As far as I know, most UAE Leclerc are based on the S2 with additional armor packages similar to AZUR, so more fitted against chemical energy weapons. The S21 remains better protected against kinetic, especially in the frontal arc, than most UAE variants. Later variants do however share similar armor upgrade in the front turret as the S21
Report on the incorrect weight of the OFL 120 F1 penetrator : Community Bug Reporting System
This should slightly increase pen/spalling values if implemented, feel free to report it as well
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Report about protection values for the armor: Leclerc ( All Variants ) wrong armor protection values // Gaijin.net // Issues
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May I ask a question, do you know the OFL-120F1 or DM43’s diameter? In game it is 22mm, seems to be too small
The weight of the sabot has no effect on the spalling or penetration in-game given that all modern APDSFS have preset density values (17500kg/m3 for WHA and 18600kh/M3 for DU).
Gaijin is too lazy to give a specific density to each APFSDS in-game.
Seems about right. I don’t have any acceptable source for that, but I saw somewhere the the OFL and DM43 have a length to diameter ratio of 28:1
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Ok, thanks
Well, I don’t know how what exactly they use in their formulas, but if we consider they don’t use the geometry of the arrow as a known value, as I don’t think they have the total volume of the arrow, the weight would have an impact, as with a slightly higher weight, with a fixed density, that would impact the volume a bit, but still have an effect on the pen and spall with some luck.
Overwise, all APFSDS would have the same pen for the same muzzle velocity, which is not the case, and I don’t think anyone has a specific geometry for any of the late APFSDS in the game, meaning that the volume is guessed from the density and weight.
This report is acknowledge. thank you
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It’s about time something like that passed.
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