The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

Didnt the leak stuff confirm that turret rotation speed is correct in game?

As it has always been the case whith France, Gaijin will improve Leclerc once it becomes unplayable.

That’s what some people keep saying, I personally didn’t get to see it. In any case they aren’t going to put to use classified sources, as far as I’m aware.
Some sources say the speed is 30º while others state that it’s 40º so I don’t know what to believe. But I’ve seen videos where a Leclerc seems to be clearly rotating the turret at more than 30º.

Leclerc ( All Variants ) wrong smoke caliber and duration // Gaijin.net // Issues
bug report about smoke shells used by Leclercs ( actualy this is for more vehicles, but for now i will make a bug report about Leclercs )

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hoping they make more screen like instead of a sphere of smoke

Leclercs should be able to fire smaller smoke grenade salvos // Gaijin.net // Issues
bug report for Leclercs which talk about smoke salvos (enabling the possibility to launch smaller salvos of grenades)

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i think it’s the same case of type 10, where the gunner only have 30º while the motor itself can do 40º.

the thing is leopard 2 have the same 30º for the gunner and 40º for the motor, yet gaijin put the horizontal traverse as 40º.

Also since we’re on the subject of French dart rounds.

Are there any alternatives to OFL-105 F1 and OFL-120 G1? currently the 9.3 and 9.7 French MBTs pen less (around 30-40mm) than any of their competitors, despite having the classic longer French guns and having to face tnaks with composite armor

there are plenty of alternatives to the 105 f1, the g1, the g2 or the f2 rounds should be better than the f1, and for the 120g1 there isnt really anything else, dont know if it is compatible with standard nato rounds, still the g1 is pretty similar to other things that you found around that br.

These ammos aren’t used on the older tanks in game. We could see better APFSDS on a potential AMX10RC however. As for the 120mm, there are options

Congrats on finding sources that discredit the classified leaker.

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An older report that wasn’t acknowledge yet about an HE for the Leclercs : Community Bug Reporting System
@Gunjob is it possible for the mods/devs to have a look at it ? It’s been a while with primary sources but nothing on Gaijin’s side

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At this point the leclerc’s need a full overhaul with the amount of bug reports against them lol

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There’s still a few mores that are being worked on rn as well xD

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So I got an answer about my months old bug report about the armor not bouncing high angle shells…

“Unable to reproduce the issue.” and report closed.

I don’t know what else I expected really…

And yet some people will insist that there are no issues with the Leclerc’s armor lol

That’s because that’s exactly the case. Check this video:
https://reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/159448s/toe_to_toe_comparison_of_top_tier_mbt_traversing/

@WaretaGarasu Thanks for your continued efforts in trying to improve the situation, it’s very appreciated.

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Not a bug lmao! Really? Lool

I’m sure they didn’t even try to reproduce it. If it had concerned a T-80 the problem would have already been corrected.

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It does happen on T-80s.
The issue is hitting perfectly in the same spot is impossible for humans, and these one in a million shots are just hard to reproduce.

The absolute nonsense that went on in this thread.

How is it the Leclerc that has the largest population of players reporting that it’s underperforming with evidence that can lead to a buff. That must mean that there’s severe problems, or am I just missing the threads where others have created several long topics discussing their equivalent underperforming?

The problem seems to be reports are frequently denied because “That’s how it’s intended in game.” Meanwhile there’s weirdos who derail the discussion by claiming as if they’re a top 1% that can dominate matches all by themselves so it’s fine in it’s current state.
We could get OFL 120 F1B+, 5 second reload, actually usable UFP & gun mantlet, better mobility (It’s sprint speed can reach 90km/h, so it could at least be around 83km/h), and better turret traverse.

The Leclerc is a good tank in specific situations, the problem is that the majority of the time the vehicle underperforms in the majority of them outside of those specific instances where you would be better off with a Type 10.
French top tier being “GOATed” as well? That’s laughable. If anyone counts the S1, S2, and SXXI which are three of the same tank and the Mirage-2000D as the GOAT, I’d like to see their reaction to any other tech tree. Where performance is likely worse then China and Italy with how little there is to work with.

Now there’s new vehicles that will bring Rank VIII ground? If the Leclerc is left alone France will be dead and rotting as a tech tree.

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