VBL (thing that should come ages ago)
it can install HOT TOW or MILAN
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Would be a good side-grade to the one that already exists.
I know I’d prefer that due to it looking better.
It would be really nice if we had it
That looks pretty good! Has it been suggested already?
Sadly i don’t know really but i really want to have in the game too it gonna be like Wiesel we already had in the game.
This is straight up false, there are a LOT of vehicle they can get, light vehicles specifically:
EBRC Jaguar
Vextra 105
Vextra POLE
VBCI CTA40 with Spikes
VBCI Philoctète
Just saying, and there are even more, without even counting the vehicles @ARK_BOI suggested as well, that should’ve deserved to come in the game together with the German Wiesels.
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Wareta, what I said cannot be false as I was talking about my knowledge of tested vehicles, in this case light tanks.
I specified very carefully “as far as I know tested” because I haven’t done much research.
I thank you for the provided Vextra 105 & POLE, which are the two tested light tanks you listed; I appreciate it.
as well as both models of the Panhard Sphinx
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A videogame that, according to the developers, prides itself on its main signature quality, which is HISTORICALLY ACCURATELY DEPICTED VEHICLES.
If you removed half of Tiger I’s front armor thickness, it could technically still perform well under the right hands and that would not make it any less BLATANTLY WRONG or acceptable to artificially nerf it to such degree.
No, just because “iT’s A gAeM” it does not mean it’s fine for historical aspects to be manipulated into pure fantasy when the literal MAIN SELLING POINT of the vehicle is “carefully crafted vehicles to highly historical degrees”.
Let me clue you in from the main webpage’s “about” section:
Over 2,000 highly detailed aircraft, helicopters, ground vehicles, warships and other combat vehicles crafted carefully from historical documents and surviving sources.
No one is asking the game to be any more realistic than it is SUPPOSSED to be according to its very own official definition, the same way it would be absurd to try to make it less realistic than it is meant to be according to the developers’ vision because “muh videogame”.
This game is meant to have historically accurate and realistic vehicles, it’s one of its literal main selling points.
No, just because “you can drive around in third person” it does not mean any regard for the realism the game and its developers and publisher take pride on can be discarded.
You understand NOTHING yet you come in here spamming off-topic, derailing and shitting on other players and their legitimate and valid concerns just because you like to feel like you are “better” than anyone else.
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You are 100% insane thinking that a GAME like this would be at all “Accurate” to muh IRL you are a known grifter and really not very well informed on how this game operates. Posting Cope on leddit to 1k other misinformed players is not proof of anything. Arguing about the IRL accuracy of tanks is a complete waste of time. The whole point of this thread is that the leclerc is bad in the GAME , ITS NOT. Thread over.
I could not care LESS whether someone considers it to be good or bad.
It is objectively inaccurately depicted although the game’s main selling point and premise is objectively accurate depictions of vehicles and that is ALL that matters.
Its real and objective capabilities are lacking compared to what it should be.
Would you like to see a Tiger I with 50mm of front armor just because “it can do well enough anyway”? Would you like to see a T-55 with 30mm of turret armor just because “it can do well enough anyway”?
Would you like to see a T-80BVM without ERA just because “it can do well enough anyway”?
If M1A2 SEP had 200mm KE of armor in the hull and people criticised this would you still come by to trash talk them telling them that “who cares, it’s good enough anyway?”
That is NOT what War Thunder is suppossed to be like.
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Because I dont care about accuracy at all, I dont play the GAME for that. I play it to destroy tanks and planes. I would much rather the GAME be balanced based of in game performance rather than any historical data.
Let me refer you, ONCE AGAIN, to the game’s official webpage statement:
Over 2,000 highly detailed aircraft, helicopters, ground vehicles, warships and other combat vehicles crafted carefully from historical documents and surviving sources.
War Thunder is not a Counter Strike with vehicle skins/thematic. It’s meant to be h i s t o r i c a l l y a c c u r a t e when it comes to vehicle depictions. Vehicles are meant to be near exact replicas of their real life counterparts. It has extremely accurate damage and armor models and mechanics for a reason and it takes them months and even years of research to model vehicles or apply any changes to them and it’s because that’s how it’s meant to be. Then there’s you, apparently wanting this game to be Call of Duty with tank-shaped models.
Also- you are not a player to be trusted with with what is a good or a bad tank.
You have a 83% WR and a 3.62 K/D on damn ARIETE and a 65% WR and 3.23 K/D on literal CHALLENGER 2 TES. Anything with tracks and a gun is going to be “good enough” for you because you are some weird form of godlike-player. I hope you are happy enough now that I have fed your ego to see this truth.
Type 10 has extreme mobility, thermal quality, rate of fire and an excellent shell.
Strv 122 has extreme protection degrees and great firepower.
T-80BVM has extreme protection degrees and amazing mobility.
What does Leclerc have? What makes it “so good” compared to a Strv 122, a T-80BVM or a Type 10? What would make it so “overpowered” if it had semi-functional armor on its UFP instead of it being non-existent? What would make it so “unbalanced” if it had a shell more similar to that of its counterparts?
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I don’t have the courage to read everything, but are you here just to create drama? If 20 people criticize something and only one person found it good because that one person knows how to use it, claiming that the others don’t know, who are we going to believe? I think you should create a thread to praise the merits of Leclerc.
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True, and I kinda fell for the bait, my bad there xD
Gonna just ignore the guy from now on.
I just got triggered because I came here to check the thread after some days and all I could see was comments from this user spamming the thread by trash talking everyone and trying to discredit these concerns.
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Secondly I find it strange that the return of Razer (under a new nickname (strange…)) is accompanied by several hidden messages…
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As usual you are misinterpreting what ive said, typical. Because I play well doesnt mean that im unable to tell you a vehicles flaws. In fact I would know the weaknesses better than most. Yes there are some tanks that are not as good as the best ones WOW AMAZING DEDUCTION. Im just going to go back to ignoring annoying grifters.
I feel like France overall is a great nation in terms of top-tier lineup, you got two mirages and now we also have a pretty nice heli. I just got the mirage and these are great tools for cas. Somehow I understand why the devs don’t want to fix the Leclerc, since with a great MBT, France will really become the oppressor in Top-tier ground RB. (other than USSR) Cuz if you look around, Japan and Sweden don’t have full access like France does.
That is my opinion, France is a great nation for the top tier, but it doesn’t change the fact that Leclerc needs to fix its armor.
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Go take a breath, we understand your point of view already, no need to add anything else.
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Agree with you, except one details:
France did not use Spike on EBRC Jaguar or boths VBCI2s, but Akeron MP (previously named MMP)