as @rainy2000 stated the abrams turret is quite a lot worse thanthat of the leclerc.
The Leclerc in my experience feels snappier tbh, though both are excellant tanks
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I will admit I didn’t know the Leclerc was built like that.
Regardless, both don’t have great turret armor against top tier vehicles, hence why I think both should be 12.0.
Leclerc should be 12.3 at least, As much as I would like it to sit lower, it is comparable to the 2A5, or the other 12.3s like the VT4 and ZTZ.
M1A1 should be at least 11.7 , right now it completely cominates the 10.3 - 11.3 area, as well as puts to shame some tanks like CR2
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HC Specs need to be 12.7 so the M1A1 can be 12.0, 10.7s have no business fighting this thing tbh. I don’t think the differences warrant a .3 or even .7 BR gap between it and the Leclerc.
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Oh I agree, the M1A2, and teh M1A1 HC need to be 12.7 but they never will, we have the Click bait whichis identical to them , if the others moved to 12.7 they would need to.
as well as this the blatant ODLing in american teams leaves the stats of them lower
Okay, ran a test. Both take 17s to reach 68 KM/H. Just the S1 though, others are more than 3t heavier iirc.
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The m1a2 and a1 HC are also heavier no?
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57.2 (M1A1) vs 61.4 for the HC.
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Leclerc S1, S2 and Azur should be 12.3 (with their hull fixed => stronger upper plate, weaker lower plate)
SXXI still lacks the titanium inserts. It and XLR could go up to 12.7, especially if they receive SHARD
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Yeah they are slightly more sluggish over all
The list so far, still testing more tanks.
Mine Protection/Dozer Removed, Tested On Road
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You shouldn’t do 0- top speed, as it’ll make the ones which are have a higher top speed seem slower, do it 0- 68 or just 0 - 60
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I have 0-60 listed in the first column, just good to know how long it takes to reach top speed as well.
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S1 doesn’t get the right turret composite the SXXI gets. But it is faster than the SXXI as a result.
And yes, 0-60 is probably the more important metric because of how CQC plays out.
honestly adding a 0-30 could be nice, if you are doing more testing, just because that means a lot in close quarters/urban areas
and should be a better approximation to how “snappy” they feel
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how many french vehicles got brune de terre camo on dev? saw a leclerc get it.
Iirc only Leclerc and Jaguar
Shot with OFL F1 & Leclerc AZUR, was pretty much spot on but zero damage at the end. He killed me OC. Is it me, F1 lacking or T-80 shadow buff ?
His barrel should have been taken out but he took no dmg. If this is indeed due to volumetric, then there is a problem.