I feel like all these bug reports are only an excuse for gaijin to make a vehicle that they want. Like at the end of the day, it comes to dev’s decision whether it should be implemented or not. Even if u gonna use all the sources in the world to prove a point, they can just accept it and move on, maybe fix it 2 years from now if they want. Not to mention the incredibly inconsistent standards in the use of sources.
For a lot of Chinese jets’ armaments, they ask for photos or evidence that the missile is actually mounted on them, despite all the sources stating they were capable of doing so. On the other hand, Su30 gets KH38 without any proves needed (and never seen irl, only mentioned in brochure and its not a primary resource per gaijin standards)
The only truth is that all the small nations are less popular, thus not a cash cow for gaijin, so they don’t care. The big3 will almost always gets something better
I feel like the MSC is going to get nerfed rather than the Leclerc getting it’s actual protection. It should be immune to its own she’ll over a 60 degree arc from the front.
Something feels off with the leclercs - the rounds are so inconsistent, i’ve gone through games where i’m pushing 7 - 9 kills with one shots on every tank, the next round it feels like i’m shooting wet spaghetti on shots that literally in the previous round were kill shots…I love the leclercs, i love the msc but something really does feel off with the rounds on these tanks they’re just so inconsistent.
Personally i think the S1 and S2 should be 11.3 - 11.7 they aren’t really much better than type 90’s there’s no real reason for them to be at 12.0
Having all the leclerc series tanks for France sat at 12.0 for no real reason seems odd especially while other nations have a nice spread of similar vehicles across br’s.
MSC should stay where it is though k, it’s fine at 10.7 while it consistently see’s 11.0+ 90% of the time, i’ve seen more uptiers with this tank than any other nation and what else does france have at 10.7 just another leopard 2a4.
Just my thoughts though fanks bye
It shouldn’t be 12.0 either? it should get its rightful mobility and armour.
No what they should of done was make a fucking 11.3 or 11.0 premium leclerc like they said they were going to. Make the MSC how it should be , as it still doesn’t get a better round, and allow it to be 11.0 or 11.3 and then we would’nt have the need for yet another premium leopard 2A4 in a random ass tree thats top tier shouldn’t be a fking leopard xD
The armour wasnt good enough to stop the majority of rounds though?
it coudl stop almost all the 10.7 omes frontally, most top tier rounds cut clean through it.
You also are igoring the huge one tap shot through the turret face.
Don’t know the specifics of the armor, but to me it fits better at 10.7 than anywhere else, especially now that Vextra has a better round and is perfectly playable at 10.7.
If you mean , the penetrating shot hit the blast door of the bustle loader and you would get ammo rack’d , it’s not really new , albeit it was quite rare since most people would just aim at the upper front plate and pen you there.
as far as im aware as wel it’s also supposed to be able to fire the F2 round.
this is another prime example of a tank that is A-historical AF just to ram it into a BR it shouldn’t be in .
Give it waht it should have, then base it’s BR off of that.
It would be extremely more fitting for france to get an 11.0 / 11.3 area BR bracket than jump from 10.7 to 12.0, trying ot use and spade a leclerc with 10.7s as back ups xD
Thermal might be gen 1 or 2. They are not the exact same as on the Leclerc but a prototype of the Athos camera without much info.
The MSC only ever fired the OFL 10 G2 APFSDS, and never fired the F1 nor the F2.
Mobility armor and reload is absolutely fair tho
why do half the tanks in the game get access to rounds they techically never fired.
The MSC can fire the F1 round it just never did .
Kinda like how the 2a4 is arbitrarily limited to DM23 ( at least IRL it fired more modern rounds)
Not saying they should be, but as far as ive seen the MSC had gen 2 or close to gen 2 thermals (we dont have the incrimental variations of thermals in game)
The thermals are somewhere between gen1 and 2 , this is partially dependent on which tank you look at cause now the thermals actually varies on the pixel count.
Heavily preferred as to receiving an extra part of the turret drive that is mounted to the hull floor.
The new turret baskets make any penetrating hit to the hull of the Leopard 2 or Abrams almost 100% guaranteed to take out the horizontal drive.
Also, I’ve finally unlocked the MSC and I can say it’s an amazing 10.7 vehicle; it’s armor is surprisingly resilient compared to the production leclercs (whose armor is not lmao)
It’s almost kind of like the Leclercs would perform massively better if their UFP’s were properly modeled like the MSC’s is…