Its a T72B series they all suck but im 100 percent with you on this with how gaijin is going about thiis.
Was thinking htat when i bounced on to test it, was hoping this would be something to substitute ny leclerc while i get the S2 and such , obviously not
So tell me exactly how did you get fucked over ?
You really expected to get a 10.7 tank that can withstand a top tier round to it’s hull without any drawbacks attached to it ?
I’m interested at how the armor performs against common 10.7 rounds such as M774, DM23, 3BM42…
To me, this thing looks like a 2A4 side-grade, and that definitely doesn’t deserve the level of bashing you’re dishing out.
That thing is basically a B3 side-grade, literally no one is talking about it and for a RU vehicle it usually means it’s sub-par at best.
Oh boy where to start, NERA is still underperforming massively while Relikt is what Astartes wear…
10.7 tank fair enough so model the armour correctly and push it up, it is only NATO that has to suffer from having underperforming armour, ammunition placement and thermals.
Yet Russia get their hand held all the time, it’s none stop they ignore NERAs actual values because if they modelled them 95% of NATO tanks would be immune to Russias best round
You still haven’t told me what’s wrong with the tank at 10.7 ?
Underperforming armor/thermals, subpar reload, Mobilty etc.
Wanna go on?
You seemingly forgot to read the 10.7 part of my message.
I still need to know why MSC is “overBRed piece of crap” at it’s current BR of 10.7.
I simply think that its UFP armor is 400 mm NERA but not 500 mm. I don’t think they changed it after the update.
But we can see that this armor is functional and not buggy like the Leclerc’s.
Exactly this ! it has a better upper front plate than the current Leclerc S1, S2, AND S21 too, it’s unbelievable :
That is thanks to the better angle of the MSC’s UFP.
The Leclerc is incredibly well designed but the MSC’s UFP angle was better than the production Leclercs.
Supposedly, the reason for that change is to favor hull down performance. The production Leclercs’ UFP in hull down position will autobounce more consistently than the MSC.
Still … The 10.7 MSC has better hull armor than the productions Leclerc, which just simply shouldn’t be a thing lol.
3BM42 which is common around 10.0 can still go right through the MSC no problem, and Leclerc ufp cant even stop 3BM22 which is absolutely ridiculous
No.
CR2 only lags behind in mobility and GH. CR2 has turret armor resistant to top tier rounds, a better UFP and LFP against full-calibre cannons, as well as way better firepower even with L27 removed. Not to mention the CR2’s way better survivability.
The MSC is still a fantastic 10.7. Its a light tank labelled as a medium. Play it like that.
This is a horrible take. The new T-72B3A is the worst top tier MBT. Ask ANY good player.
I still don’t see what’s the big deal with MSC, it looks to be a 2A4 side-grade which is perfectly fine for 10.7.
I think the fact no one speaks about it on this forum speaks volumes.
This forum jumps on everything even remotely good if it’s added to RU, so seeing little to no fuss about it makes me think it’s poopoo.
Pretty much. Its now the second best 10.7, which isn’t surprising considering being better than the 2A4 is a really high bar.
The reason the armor on the Leclercs ingame is bad is because, and you won’t believe this, the Leclercs have bad armor irl
how is 68° better angle than 74° ? Better angle means more armor effectively no ?
If you want i can give you Leclerc S211 with the same angle of the MSC :
You get 185mm vs 366mm for the MSC with the same shell. It’s clearly because they didn’t model the armor of the UFP
Ah, here come the people that don’t know shit about a vehicle and still comments very confidently.
At this point you’d think Gaijin would see this thread and decide to take action. They could make good money on a good top tier for france, they just added a new top tier premium to grind the tree with. After years I’m starting to really think they have an anti french tree bias.
