No. The only decently armored part is the horizontal bar where the lower front plate and the upper front plate joins
Which is still better than the production Leclercs lol
The Leclerc’s hull has been underperforming for as long as the Leclercs have been in-game.
With the introduction of the MSC, perhaps Gaijin will take a second look at the hull of the production Leclercs?
I wouldnt count on it
The MSC’s hull is EXTREMELY more effective than all of the production Leclercs…
MSC gets like 640mm+ KE on it’s hull bulkhead while all of the production Leclercs are stuck with like 560mm+ KE.
MSC hull can resist DM53 fired from the L/55 while production hulls can’t even stop 3BM60…
Here’s the difference visualized by some screenshots
Production
MSC
Basically MSC hull gets the 12.0 dart ready level of protection (except for the UFP which is unchanged) us France mains have been dreaming to see come to rest of the Leclercs, while the production Leclercs are still rocking the weaker hulls that struggle to stop 3BM60.
Does the MSC still have that 6 sec reload?
yep (it’s purely there just so the MSC can stay 10.7)
That’s understandable. How different is the turret in terms of protection though?
The turret is incredibly weak in the gun mantlet area, struggling to even stop 105mm M735.
The outer edges of the turret however are very strong for 10.7, from the front they are in the 580mm+ KE range.
Oh, basically a type 10 with worse round, reload and bigger weak spots.
Thank you for the information
Will Serial Production Leclerc’s also receive armor fixes? Considering MSC got pretty good hull and turret armor it’s assume that Production models will also receive the same treatment right?
Yes, I just saw the MSC’s UFP armor, and it far surpasses that of the Leclerc (it seems its UFP armor is one of the strongest currently available).
Hoping it corrects those of the current Leclercs.
Gaijin reaction:
this thing is 100 percent going to be 11.0 xD
Hope it happens! And CR2 can fall further and further behind and end up at 10.3-10.7 where it belongs.
inb4 muh Swedish trials
Somehow prototipe leclerc that is using Same hull with weaker turret has better protection :)
Yeah everyone brings them up when they were outdated by the time most the tanks they refer to went into service xD
I am waiting for your reply in Mig-23m vs Mig-21.
@Smin1080p_WT
I’ve experienced this frustration mainly when reporting about French vehicles so I’ll post it here,
For the love of all that is good in this world, moderators who put “Not enough info” on bug reports that are SPOON FED TO THEM WITH PROOF SO OBVIOUS THAT AN INFANT COULD UNDERSTAND shouldn’t be handling reports, and they should be fired.
Not enough info.
Not enough info.
What makes this worse is the fact that y’all are blatantly disrespectful to those of us who take the time out of our own days to manually source and make reports.
One of y’all (I 100% know which moderator you are, but mentioning your name directly will probably get me banned here so I’ll just say you are a complete disgrace who will get what is coming to you) loves to leave snarky/disrespectful answers that openly insult the intelligence of the person who submitted the bug report. This is 100% a result of moderators now being anonymous to the submitter, and being emboldened to act heinously because they can’t be directly identified.
My point is none of us are getting paid to take our own time to fix the game for developers who are incompetent and can’t do their own research.
The least y’all could do is not be moderators who make submitting these reports even more of a pain with magical rainbow levels of stupid guidelines or logic, or just plain out being malicious and denying a report and insulting the person who submitted it seemingly for fun.
I give up on any attempts to improve this game; my report about the AMX-40 has been accepted for almost a whole year now while the tank in question has been moved up in BR.
I’ll still play, but this game simply isn’t worth it putting in your spare time to improve.
Very cool new video of the Leclerc XLR !
I have done a report about this with more sources and link to your OP, hopefully it will be accepted now
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/AwiHGdG0ckJn
