Overpressure might say ammunition exploded which does not necessary mean a crew death.
whenever you get overpressured, you can notice that your crew just turns black on the kill cam, it was not a thing on the kill cam after that T29 killed me
Look at this horrible result.
Arietes and Mer4s were both buffed and moved up,
All Leclercs received no buffs, and all four went up to 12.0.
Gaijin clearly hates and discriminates against the French.
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We really should get all French players to absolutely tank the stats of the Leclercs to get them to look at it at this point.
However, I doubt that would even work.
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sigh
I feel bad for you guys, you have spent month and month gathering evidence and losing sanity with the Devs to successfully have the reload reduce to 5sec.
In the end Gaijin just gave 5sec to everyone and buffed everyone but Leclerc
I still want to thank you all for the dedication
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Well… I can see why the Ariete gets it. But the Merkava too? I guess it is underpowered then. But it partially removes one noticable advantage the Leclerc had on the battlefield now.
Let’s not paint the picture darker than it is, but creating a bit more flavour for this machine once again should be of priority. Although… the glass cannon strategy the Ariete used to possess has been eradicated by the devs through updates as well and no answer to cater to the Italian MBT arrived yet.
In the end though, it is notable that this is a move to decompress high BR’s which we always asked for. Thus, it is by no means necessary to argue against these tanks moving up, as all top machines do. This creates a nice area for the lower tiers to relax again, which is great to have.
What I consider problematic is that an M1A1 HC gets a 600+ mm round to compensate the increase of the BR, but the Leclercs (all of them) are stuck on a round that is actually less potent than the round the M1A1 has to begin with.
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I think if anything, this qualifies the skill of french players again, but also highlights that the Leclerc’s ability has absolutely nothing to do with its armor or ammo. Its potency comes from the turret traverse, the reload speed and the mobility - and a big brain behind the controls to use that.
Big but though: The firepower and the mobility, nor the reload are that extraordinary though. The only thing that fully stands out is the turret traverse. The rest can be matched or even surpassed by other nations vehicles. Most notably the armor package. So to conclude that the French players are a capable bunch of folks, knowing how to utilize this machine properly is fair.
Note: The Leclerc AZUR actually does not have the faster turret traverse… does it? Or is my statcard broken?
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burnt baguette smell
Yep ridiculous, CR3 also the only tank using DM53 and the L55 gun to not get a 5 second reload…
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none of the l55 have a 5s reload… the arietes and merkavas use an l44, only the leopard 2a6/7 and the challenger 3 use the l55.
Ok my mistake. I’m not sure having a longer gun changes the breach? Is it harder to load? Does the turret space shrink?
No it’s for balancing and currently the C3TD is one of the worse top tier tanks
it doesnt, reload rate is purely a balancing measurement, the ariete and merkava got this buff because they were the worst tanks at this br by far, btw stay on topic this is a leclerc thread, there is one for the challenger you can complain there or in the devblog for the br changes.
You challenged it, i stated the CR3 also ate poo like the Leclercs im massively aware of the CR page. It has over 10k replies.
I was correcting you… nothing in my comment was an invitation to a “challenge”, i dind’t even metion if it should or shouldnt get a 5s reload.
Hello @Smin1080p_WT ,
I saw in the recent BR changes that the M1A1 HC is being moved up to 11.7 with M829A2 whilst the M1A2s will sit at 12.0. Now my understanding is that these tanks are virtually identical with the only difference being that M1A2s have a higher thermal generation and a CITV. Based on this logic, would the devs therefore consider moving the Leclerc SXXI to 12.0 and leaving the rest of them at 11.7 given that the SXXI receives its historically accurate thermals?
This would also solve the dev’s (self-inflicted) dilemma of not being able to add a Leclerc premium, no?
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We don’t know what they’re planning for next major update.
Ammo and reload speed is easily done outside major updates, while more complicated changes are usually major updates only… of course if they’re cooking something.
There’s a few open issues still.
Leclercs are just an M1A1 [11.3 with the changes] right now in effectiveness, which is sad.
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Anyone want to put coin up on the answer being no?
Really not sure why it went up in BR when the nearest contender for worst MBT was Ariete. And they buffed Ariete to the same reload, which was the most significant disadvantage compared to Leclerc.
I like how it takes how many years of asking for Leclercs reload to be 5s?. After Gaijin finally relent, then they immediately hand out 5s reload to Arietes and Merks.
Poor ZTZs
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Probably should have known this was going to happen. They fought to give the 5s only to Abrams instead of Leclerc, when the information they used was pulled from a Leclerc report.
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