I have one book by photosniper, called “Char Lecerc”. In that are a few hints at the armour changes - also that the Batch 3 seriè une had a protection increase on the commanders side, etc. There’s rough claims about increase of armor protection, but nothing precise like concrete values. Except for speed which it states that they Leclercs could hit up to 90 kph wwhen the crews were training in the desert.
It’s a secondary source, obviously. Also it is the only I own. If you need let me know. But you might have it alredy.
Gaijin already thought through the process, currently ground is only up to 11.7, but if you add up cas, let’s say Mirage 5F, that will make it 12.3. Which it will make a “uptier” for all these premium users. And we all know that top tier is much about line up and not just mbts. So theoretically gaijin is creating a new separate tier for these 11.3 prems to avoid veteran’s heavy cas ability.
As far as I know that never was a question. PzH 2000 most likely is the best armorued howitzer in the world.
Caesar is not an armoured howitzer to begin with.
Caesar and PzH 2000 differ extremely in basic design approaches and in their design based on tactical and strategic considerations. PzH 2000 is supposed to move with and support heavy components such as tank and grenadier units.
Caesar has a rather different set of requirements also reflected by the pricetag as well as production numebers.
Fire rate and targeting software as well as ergonomics should be superior on PzH 2000.
Do not get me wrong Caesar is a very good weapon system but it fits a different role and doctrine.
In short PzH 2000 is the high end solution designed for warfare against the Soviet Union on European soil while Caesar is a post cold war concept more suited to the expeditionary needs of France after 1991.
It would be more reasonable to compare RCH 155 to Caesar but with RCH 155 being the first Howitzer to be able to fire while on the move…
Based on their history, it is not uncommon for a premium to be a tiny bit lower than its TT counterpart. And let’s be very frank here: The Leclerc is by no means a Leopard 2A7V, not a 2A5 in capability and armor. It doesn’t have the armor or the spall liners to make it so survivable. So placing it at 11.3 isn’t a crime based on the objective capabilities of the machine.
The best choices for a premium would be either the UAE Leclerc (Leclerc with a German Diesel engine)
or the Leclerc XXI AZUR (Leclerc azur with commander thermals).
Imo
I disagree for the following reason. I do not intend to say what you are capable of as a player in the machine. It is by no means a question of that. Obviously it is a highly uncontrolled variable. But from an objective game balance perspective, it only can be a clear no.
The vehicles are very similar in mobility. But that’s where I see an objective balance end, honestly. The Leopards carry the advantage in armor, penetration and survivablity. Now that spall liners are a thing, the Leopards tanks are notoriously difficult to kill in one shot from the sides or at an angle. Worse even, you probably won’t kill both the commander and the gunner, making it highly likely that a return shot will kill you, as your enemy does not need to aim that well to kill you.
It is this what I refer to by balance. Arguably, the Ariete is in a similar place. But it is this, I argue that makes it no comparison at all. The same player will do better in the Leopard. It is simple as that, because that is simply forgiving and will allow you to react.
I do not intend to say that the real thing is weak, that is a different story. I do intend to say that the Leclerc is a highly difficult tank to play as it is unforgiving and comparatively weaker by its ingame stats.
Yeah but I hope it goes in the tech tree at like 10.7 or something because France doesn’t have anything at that rank (with the light tanks and jaguar hopefully coming to the game it could make a nice lineup)
If they add a top tier rank 8 premium tank to France, it will make the win rate fall out of the sky so I think it’s a good idea. Only then they might buff the Leclerc.