Also is that tank really supposed to weight 53t?
These da_n id____s are absolutely butchering the MSC — just like what they’ve been doing to Leclerc for years.
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Ah yes no armour but weighs the same as regular leclerc with armour. Make it make sense
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So this is the tank they were hesitant to add for several years ? This was the time it took for them to add an objectively worse AMX 40 ? Their logic are beyond my comprehension. Not that surprised though. It was the same story with the Dunkerque…
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Emphasis on you have played, no we have lol
It being a test bed it could have some kind of steel weights to simulate armor like the Obj292, but Gaijin seems to just keep the wight without bothering to think about where it cam from and how to implement it correctly (even if just based on assumptions)
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even on obj292 the steel weights are modeled and have actual armor values somewhat , msc is just a empty box that is heavy.
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That’s french light tanks for you ;-) But without scouting and drone. And light tank spawn cost. No. wait. But it does have a stabilizer no? Yes, that should be enough actually to make any france player happy.
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MSC might be a competitor to the pt16 soon?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/uakoAAOUVhKR
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I think so, otherwise it’s near the same exact armor as normal leclerc, just not having some on the side of the turret, sadly the reload wasn’t changed.
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Its there but the damage model isn’t physically working yet by the looks of it
this things gonna end up 11.0 or 11.3 just watch
itll do extremely well in the hands of french players at 10.7 and just get yoinked up.
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If that happens Tiger HAD and Super Étendard will be useabke again.
Could that possibly be a win-win situation?
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Will they review the UFP Du Leclerc’s armor with that of the MSC?
I don’t see it going past 10.7 even with the new composite given it’s likely said composite will struggle to even stop M111 hetz in it’s strongest areas…
I see the 6 second reload being permanent purely just so this tank stays 10.7 alongside the 2A4’s…
Gaijin has financial interests of keeping the MSC at 10.7 that way the Leo 2A4NL premium has a good lineup, so 0 way they move the MSC out of it’s current BR.
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Does it have gen 1 or 2 thermals?
Gen 1
yeah I think gen 1 thermals and 6 second reload keeps it 10.7, otherwise goes 11.0.
Fun fact i uptiered the anx40 and my 9.3s to 11.0 just to use the SE whu its 11.0 is beyond me