The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

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Gesamtwerk Leopard 2 by Frank Lobtiz.
Second source by Rolf Hilmes: “For the conversion to the Leopard 2A5, the oldest turrets were taken and modified to KWS turrets using the latest D technology. The KWS turrets were combined with chassis with C-technology protection.”
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Since the Netherlands never built any C-Tech hulls, they used those with B-Tech.

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Fair enough, this looks legit.

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Honestly a 2A5NL with 2A4 level hull armor and DM33 max (maybe DM43) would make for a decent 11.7 premium option for France.

Not that it would happen, I assume the leaked leopards will go to the tree and just be C&Ped from the German tree.

With the next French premium being the VBCI-2 40, just to really rub salt in the wound.

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I mean it will prevent win rate from going down :D (cause people won’t play france)

Leclerc S2 and SXXI Missing OFLE 120 F2: Community Bug Reporting System

Despite being delivered to the French army, OFL 120 F2 shells initially produced in the late 1990s never entered service due to problems with the depleted uranium alloy. A more recent production run of this shell entered French service under the designation ‘OFLE 120 F2’ in 2013. In War Thunder, OFLE 120 F2 will trade 2mm of penetration against a vertical target at 0m for better penetration past ~1,000m. The increased penetrator weight will also translate to improved spalling.

Previously, OFLE 120 F2 was an unsuitable addition because it would’ve been modelled using the standard density of DU in-game - that is, 18,600kg/m^3. However, based on new information, the penetrator should have a density of 19,000kg/m^3. This means a very negligible loss of flat penetration under 1,000m, but much better penetration at longer distances.

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well… about that
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/YWLtgjkPMqCk

every non german 2a5/6 needs their hull armor nerfed / adjusted to be on the 2a4 lvl
so they aint completly copy paste

yeah… Toxins one of our main leopard guys.
if someone knows sth aboput a leopard no matter which variant toxin propably is the person to ask

This would actually be fine, because this means that the 2A5NL could technically be 11.7 depending on the ammo.

It’s likely not going to happen, but I could see a 2A5NL (with B-tech hull armor) premium being a thing.

eh , we both know thats even more unlikely
gajins plan propably already is putting everything into the tech tree, doubt they changing that so quickly out of nowhere

If this was really the case, then it would be even more underwhelming lmao

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I mean they could always introduce a camo net version of the 2A5NL as a premium.

However you are right. Gaijin will just keep the 2A5NL and 2A6NL armor as the german 2A5/6 and keep them at 12.0

that i didnt say

You know that it will happen though, Gaijin isn’t adding these because they want to put a lot of work in them.

Also a 2A5NL with B-tech armor could easily be added to 11.7, seeing as we now have tanks like the M1A2 at 11.7 too.

the armor changing is no work realy
and at that point its not realy a thing of preference but phantasie values that never happend

seeing a bunch of new posts in the Leclerc thread :D

Oh it’s just people talking about the Leo2 :(

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lol

Don’t scare me like that

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Muh missing turret composites😞(zero idea why they were removed considering every source in existance states the AMX-40 has composite arrays in it’s turret)

I’d love to see the AMX-40 with it’s turret composites and a faster reload (possibily a better round if OFL-G1 isn’t already underperforming on this thing) be apart of a French 10.7 lineup alongside the 2A4NL and some other additions like Leclerc proto’s or even VEXTRA-105 with it’s proper APFSDS round

On the other hand though I’ve been enjoying 9.7 France quite a bit with the recent decompression and I feel like I’m starting to get back into the game again

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