So you were proven wrong, and instead of admitting you’re wrong, you rage quit and give the silent treatment. Very mature, German main.
Also, you’re the genius that said France and Sweden are some of the strongest in game. France desperately needs a buff, and the only reason they do well is because French players need to be good. Same as Sweden. It’s not point and click like Germany.
Oh, so you reported my comment. Very mature.
Any hopes they could just come back on their decision and make BeNeLux an independent tech-tree or are we doomed with a suboptimal sub-tree?
PS: please stay on topic
Nah I don’t think that’ll ever happen unfortunately.
No, Gaijin seems to only employ Copy-Paste vehicles at this point. I was hoping the Dutch and their territories would get more indigenous designs like the Fokker planes and some tanks that would break up the super heavy tanks France has and Ctrl-C+Ctrl-P American stuff donated. Instead we got one half decent plane of Dutch origin, and the rest are British/American. Tanks? Oh yeah, three or four Leopards with the only indigenous tank as a squadron.
You best hope the Dutch buys a 2A7, otherwise we are stuck with bad thermals for French top tier.
Highly unlikely. IIRC last time that happened was with israeli vehicles back when israel was introduced as standalone, but israeli vehicles werent a subtree, just random vehicles scattered between several TTs.
BeNeLux is hardbaked into France.
Not sure what you mean by Eurocopter, but there’s so much coldwar stuff to add from NLD alone:
like already mentioned by @unit8 :
YP PWAT (Pantser wiel Anti Tank) Armored wheeled Anti Tank
Caption with this photo said that during reload the launcher is lowered hydraulically into the hull.
AMX 2D which was later armed with TOW
Sorry couldn’t find a picture with shows the vehicle with the weapon showing the whole vehicle.
YPR 765 PRAT
YPR 765
Humber Mk IV armored Car
PRTL
or, the upgraded version the Cheetah, MLU and should fire FAPDS for longer range engagements.
AMX arty with 105mm gun;
AMX13 with 105mm gun;
M113 C&V, lowered M113 chassis with 25mm Oerlikon (no-stab), same gun as YPR uses;
Leopard 1V, V stands for “verbeterd” which translates to improved.
Centurion variants;
Mk 3
Mk5/2
M109A2 with long barrel;
FMC M110, is you really want to blow up stuff with HE ;)
Even has a bigger brother the A2 variant
Fennek SWP (Stinger Weapons Platform)
And lets not forget the PZH2000NL
And regards to the CV9035NL, the botched the ammo, as far as i know NLD doesn’t use APFSDS (gun can fire it), they use the APDS from the PRTL and they completely ignored the ABM KETF munition it’s able to fire. that’s what the coil is for at the end of the barrel.
Necromancy!
But I wanted to come back and say this is so real, Thailand has been complete rubbish! The only actual unique addition, the Oplot, wasn’t even implemented properly, and others like the M163 are straight up the wrong variant.
Each new subtree addition is worse than the past ones (somehow!), and BeNeLux has been completely abandoned by now. If they’re going to add subtrees like this, we may aswell just have no subtrees at all. It feels insulting.
Where Benelux WW2 light tanks snail,.ive been waiting eons at this point also where the hell is Luxembourg, you call it Benelux but i dont think we have a single vehicle from them
Tbf both flak and Ito are entirely irrelevant given the new SPAA and at a BR where you’re better off getting in a jet, sweden is in a weird spot cause the Elde is more or less a side grade to the Ito but with more CBT included imo.
God i would pay as many Danske Krones the snail wanted for the Humber
The air part is the least worst part of the Benelux subtree but i’m still very frustrated by the lack of unique airframes. Only two of them, both being Dutch designs which, yk as a Belgian it annoys me a bit.
Don’t get me wrong those Fokkers are really nice but them being no higher than 2.3 feels a bit limiting, when on the Belgian side you had the Renard R.36 which would suit 3.0 nicely and the R.38 which would comfortably sit in the BR 4.0 to 5.0 range, which you don’t often see with minor nations unique designs.
Look them up, they’re really quite nice
shamelessly plugs my own suggestions ;P
For the ground side, i can’t really say much because it’s not really there yet, it’s long overdue but we’ll see how bad it gets
Oplot, Stingray, F-16A OCU, F-5TH TCU, F-5T SCU, Alpha Jet TH, Alpha Jet A, AV-8S…
M163 is 100% correct.
Thailand operated 2 M163 variants, and this is one of them.
I like BeNeLux though as it’s rather nice.
Unique vehicles such as Gladiator Mk1, Fokker DXXI, Fokker GIA, Spitfire FR MkXIVe, Meteor F Mk8, Mirage 5BA, F-16A, F-16AM, Leopard 2A5NL, and 2A4NL are all lovely.
As well as some of the copy paste.
NF-5A if Gaijin has a good response about Singapore’s addition.
As it stands, the Gladiator is not unique, as its guns are still of the wrong, weaker model.
I won’t argue about the rest being copy-paste as we obviously have very different definitions
The Gladiator isn’t in any other tech tree.
There is no other 2 bladed Gladiator in the game.
…
Wow…
Such difference…
The real issue is due to the fact France’s ground tree has no room, there’ll never be a full BeNeLux ground update, the drip feed of Belgium SPHs/the Dutch Leos is the closet thing to a BeNeLux ground update
I’ve been waiting on low-tier Dutch ground myself but…
Has no room? remove the US copy slop and we have plenty of room not like many of us even care about most US additions
It was very disappointing. I was expecting some of the unique inter-war and early WW2 vehicles. Where are they Gaijin?
Give me the T-13’s.
The French tree has plenty of room.
The French tree is no where near the 84 vehicles per rank soft imit.
The Csaba and Turan as well, no?
