They might eventually add the Strategic class SAMs to defend the base targets that might shoot down incoming ordnance, so it might become a possible addition in future if they go that way.
It’s just likely to be a few Update in the future before they get around to revising them.
Neither the A-10 or Su-25 would be diving into the danger zone before SEAD took place…
well… not in a competent military any way.
Because, it could make a bigger impact on the outcome of the match, since it has so many ammunitions, it can stay in the air for longer and having better combat endurance greatly increases the number of potential kills.
Though of course fnf ammununitions can also hardly influence the outcome of a match.
If they could do that. Then we should have FnF Brimstones for ASB
Then again, I point out the Su-39 is a lower BR than the A-10C.
Well i don’t know about that
16x AGMs vs 6x AGMs.
But aint one laser guided and the other tv?
Yes.
And the Typhoon has 18x laser guided and the Su-30SM has 6x IIR+IOG AGMs but apparently the Typhoon is superior to the Su-30 because it has more AGMs.
But this doesnt apply to the SU-39 vs A-10C
As always skipping the other “unimportant” stuff like A-10C has HMD, 4 irccm smokeless missiles and they are both subsonic platforms
Skipping what exactly?
A2A performance for Ground attackers doesnt really become much of a factor. Otherwise the Av-8B+ and Harrier Gr7 should be at different BRs because one has 4x Aim-9m and the other has 2-4 Aim-9M and 2-4 Aim-120A.
And the SU-39 has IRCCM
and the Su-39 has IRCM which is one of the few guaranteed defences against any IR SAM, if used right.
They are largely equal airframes, and yet they have radically different A2G performances and yet the A-10C is for some reason higher. Heck, it is the same BR as the Harrier Gr7 that dunks on it all day long in terms of A2A combat and probably A2G as well.
F-15A, F-4F KWK, F-16A, F-16ADF, F/A-18A, Kurnass 2000, F-16AJ, F-15J, MiG-29G these planes have different ARB br, different A2G weaponary (F-16ADF doesn’t have even simple bomb) and different A2A weaponary but they share same GRB br.
and none of those are ground attackers.
and you’ve just kinda proved my point.
Unless you are saying the F-15A and A-10C have 100% identical A2A performance.
The A-10Cs BR is clearly set by its A2G performance (and that is supported by the fact its 11.7 in ARB and 12.0 in GRB)
Unless you are saying the Tornado Gr1 should be a lower BR than the Su-39 because the Su-39 has R-73s and the Tornado Gr1 only has Aim-9L?
The airframes are near identical (slow subsonic, with decent defensive kit and IRCCM IR missiels for self defence)
The difference is in A2G performance, A-10C is running 6x AGM-65 with no Tpod and the Su-39 is running 16x Vikhrs. If the argument exists for the Tornado Gr4 or Typhoon to be at the BRs they are at because of their “Sustained A2G CAS” and that buffing their A2G with something like SAL-Brimstone 2s would be unreasonable, then I question why the Su-39 isnt at 12.0 alongside the A-10C
You comparing subsonic and supersonic platforms have atleast some decency
Then Harrier T-10 which is 11.7 in GRB should be 11.0 in GRB because the Su-39 has R-73 at 11.3.
Happy?
Heck with 4x AGM-65G vs 16x Vikhrs, it should also be considered the weaker in terms of A2G as well
Or tonrado Gr4 should be 11.7 because the F-15A is 12.0 with 4x Aim-9M and 4x Aim-7M? Heck the Tornado F3 Late is 12.0 with 4x Aim-9M and 4x Aim-120B
No now you taking only A2A systems it doesn’t make things correct you should align it with all characteristics it has not just take one from context
You did. You justified the A-10C being 12.0 because of its A2A systems ONLY.
Su-39 = A-10C in pretty much every single respect. These aircraft are as close as you can get interms of aircraft performance and role.
Su-39 has 16x AGMs the A-10C only has 6. Therefore the Su-39 should be a higher BR based upon the arguments I’ve seen for justifying the Typhoon with 18x short range SAL missiles being the same BR as the Su-30 and Rafale with 6x FnF AGMs and equal if not superior A2A performance
I said you skipping the A2A sustems.
and what difference is there?
Su-39 has IRCCM missiles, IRCM, good CM count and Good RWR
A-10C has IRCCM missiles, MAWS, Good CM count and Good RWR.
A-10C is vastly weaker than any and all other aircraft at 12.0 in terms of A2A performance and on the ground of “it should be higher because of its A2A performance” then actually it should be lower. No way the A-10C is the equal of 13.0 aircraft.
4 IRCCM smokeless missiles with HMD can be big leverage in GRB and 4 IR Fire-and-Forget missiles on subsonic platform with targeting pod