The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

[sudo_su1]

@ItsGaryy

This doesn’t mean a variant without SAT doesn’t exist. If that’s the case, they didn’t mention anything about an IR seeker. Therefore with your logic, it doesn’t exist.

The video is titled “Kh-38MLE” so it makes sense for them to not mention the IR seeker …

But just look at the subtitle / voice-over and then at the graphic

Graphic says “INS”

Subtitle / voice-over says “Inertial satellite”

I.e. by INS they mean INS + GNSS

They just sometimes omit explicitly mentioning it because there’s little point in mentioning it
Its not the main guidance method in these variants and it’s only used to correct for INS drift …

It’s kinda like a $2M luxury car making mention of having seat belts …

[ron_2303]

we literally have a picture of it being mounted to a plane

[_Ladies_Man_217]

Still doesn’t change the fact that its gamebreaking and should’ve been removed from the game months ago (here we can see how Gaijin favors Russia so much), but now we can wait untill we see the new SPAAs and how they’re going to perform against it.

[ron_2303]

@_Ladies_Man_217

Still doesn’t change the fact that its gamebreaking and should’ve been removed from the game months ago

funny how you changed argument because it isnt fake

[_Ladies_Man_217]

Just joined the thread, there was more than 200 replies and didn’t see Gunjoobs response, so my point still stands.

[LegitRussianBias]

yeah i fogor

[sudo_su1]

@_Fantom2451_

It’s just poor wording. “Active satellite navigation” is like in fact = active homing device, since it’s active, it’s device and used for homing

“Normal” GNSS modules are not “active” nor “homing”

So it’s possible by “Active satellite navigation” and “Active homing device” they mean something more than just regular passive GNSS guidance for the MKE …

And if you agree that the old brochure is very poorly worded then it doesn’t prove anything since by “inertial” they could also mean “inertial + satellite” (And just worded it poorly) just like in the video …

[LegitRussianBias]

Gaijin doesn’t favour any nation… Did you say this when the US had the best AtG missiles?

[ron_2303]

There you have his response:

@Gunjob

Images from the brochure look like there were taken with Adobe Scan, which is why it has the brightening effect on the white areas.

No brightening effect;

Spoiler

Brightening;

Spoiler

So the document won’t be an original photo, and that’s not a great tact to take.

@Gunjob

Yeah I wouldn’t pursue the image being faked, as the photos aren’t original as the brightening effect alters them but makes the text much more readable and fixes issues with lighting/reflectivity of the pages.

With all the evidence presented I’m confident in the weapon existing in some form now, and at the very least there is now enough evidence for it to be in game.

[H_ngma]

The US AtG missile actually existed tho…

[_Ladies_Man_217]

Which got nerfed later, we haven’t seen a single nerf to the KH38MT at all.

[ron_2303]

do you see a missile on those pylons, because i do

[sudo_su1]

TBF that seems to be a Su-34

I’m yet to see any evidence for Su-30SM carrying Kh-38 or TGP

[H_ngma]

yes theres “a” missile on that Pylon which is the whole point of this thread

[MrBombastic8]

tbf
give it more drag coefficient to make it closer to avg cruise speed
gen 2 thermal and 15x zoom(which is still better than 65D btw)
limit 4 on su-34(brochure mockups) and 0 kh-38 at all on su-30sm(since there isnt any proof of it, even 38ML)
then i think its good enough

[ron_2303]

@sudo_su1

TBF that seems to be a Su-34

it is a su34 you can see that by looking at the landing gear

the point was that the missile is not fake

[_Fantom2451]

For 30SM they are made up with t220 partially confirmed by gaijin to be fake, as well as kh38 on 25sm3, that is obvious part

[ron_2303]

it is a kh-38mt we already went through that a few times

@Gunjob

Yeah I wouldn’t pursue the image being faked, as the photos aren’t original as the brightening effect alters them but makes the text much more readable and fixes issues with lighting/reflectivity of the pages.

With all the evidence presented I’m confident in the weapon existing in some form now, and at the very least there is now enough evidence for it to be in game.

[MrBombastic8]

i still believe its a mockups because they wouldnt reveal it publicly

[_Fantom2451]

Have you seen publicly non mockup newest Kh-59 variants used by Su-57?