The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

[ron_2303]

@maguumo

Didn’t see that image before, but maybe I missed something.
Looks really weird though, there’s no sensor/lens and gimbal assembly visible at all, just a circuit board.

that is 100% a mock up, in the 38mt picture we have from the Marks expo we could atleast see the gimbal and seeker element

[Armen_Lozone]

among one of, im still looking for images

[ron_2303]

so WT is proof that the 38mt exists and can be mounted on the su34 and su30?

[MotorolaCRO]

@_Ladies_Man_217

My point is if every nation is getting a better SPAA, Russia would get the best one out of all of them.

If it’s slightly better then, as I said, it’s okay as RU as a nation don’t have good FMs in the game. Same goes for China.

@Armen Lozone

for the purposes of GRB it is quite potent and capable. if you get the kills, what does it matter the technology it has or doesnt have?

@Armen_Lozone
Everything can get the kills, but it’s about efficiency so having higher stats on the missile will do just that.

@Armen Lozone

why reduce the load when u can get a full load of the lesser ranged but probably just as potent Kh-25MT/P??

If those were just as potent then there’s no reason no replace anything as they’ll perform the same.
I don’t get you here.

@Armen Lozone

well lets break that vacuum, the Kh-25, unlike the maverick, does not depend as much on launch speed to achieve its maximum 10km range.

By vacuum I meant the planes itself and their FMs + A2A + other stuff matter as well.

[Armen_Lozone]

if you didnt catch up with the thread… we moved past that

[Armen_Lozone]

@MotorolaCRO

Everything can get the kills, but it’s about efficiency so having higher stats on the missile will do just that.

do you need an OP missile to do it or can you achieve similar results with a lesser ranged and less explosive missile?

@MotorolaCRO

By vacuum I meant the planes itself and their FMs + A2A + other stuff matter as well

which ever plane can carry Kh-38 in the current game version wont lose any other weaponry nor have an affected FM or anything if the 38 is replaced by the 25

[ron_2303]

iam just using the same logic you do

the KH-38MT is able to be mounted on the Su-30 in WT, so does that mean it can do so as well IRL

[Armen_Lozone]

@ron_2303

the KH-38MT is able to be mounted on the Su-30 in WT, so does that mean it can do so as well IRL

maybe. we dont have proof. thats why im still looking. but the 25 is way less contentious than the 38. hence i was arguing based on commonality of compatibility

[_Ladies_Man_217]

@MotorolaCRO

If it’s slightly better then

Pantsir isn’t slightly better than the ITO,Flarakrad,ADATS, so the idea of every nation is going to get a new SPAA, i bet Russia going to receive something far more better than any nation’s AA.

[ron_2303]

and what would that be?

do you really think gaijin will give russia the s400 and everyone else the patriot?

[_Ladies_Man_217]

Given the existence of KH38MT,Pantsir, it would be possible.

[MotorolaCRO]

@Armen Lozone

do you need an OP missile to do it or can you achieve similar results with a lesser ranged and less explosive missile?

I still don’t get you.
If I can achieve similar results with an 65D equivalent, then how is the 38MT actually OP ?

@Armen Lozone

which ever plane can carry Kh-38 in the current game version wont lose any other weaponry nor have an affected FM or anything if the 38 is replaced by the 25

But 38MTs themselves can carry the plane, even if it’s atrocious in other areas.
Do you think that SM3 would remain at 12.7 without those missiles ?

[Silversting]

@ron_2303

the patriot?

Give this to the USSR (from Ukraine) and to China (from Taiwan) ☠️☠️☠️

[ron_2303]

great more whataboutism
we didnt had enough of that in this thread already

[Armen_Lozone]

@MotorolaCRO

then how is the 38MT actually OP ?

oh idk, maybe its the sheer speed and explosive mass and range that literally doesnt let any SPAA have a chance to counter?

@MotorolaCRO

But 38MTs themselves can carry the plane, even if it’s atrocious in other areas.
Do you think that SM3 would remain at 12.7 without those missiles ?

im sure the Su-25SM3 can do well albiet within 20km if the 38 is replaced with the 25

[_Ladies_Man_217]

I see you can’t face facts, after the leaklist drop and its definitely what i said earlier i’m going to mention you to confirm the double standards Gaijin do when its about Russia.

[ron_2303]

what leak list?

the fake one that got deleted from the WT subreddit a few hours later?

[Armen_Lozone]

@MotorolaCRO

to summarise
the Kh-38 is OP because of the speed, the range, the IOG and the explosive mass.
the Kh-25MT/P would be balanced because it has 20km range, no IOG but still a decent explosive mass as well as decent speed.
it is comparable to other Anti tank IR AGMs

idk the source of this but here ya go

[_Ladies_Man_217]

I said after the leak drop, not the one that’s fake.

[ron_2303]

if that was what you tried to express iam sorry, but for that you should have used the past tense of drop
instead of the present tense

@_Ladies_Man_217

after the leaklist drop