Yes. But do we have evidence to suggest so?
Source : trust me bro.
Im yet to see any evidence of them actually being used
Controlled information is common.
But in either case at this point it’s opinion.
This is for the KH-38?
An opinion which is not anti any nation would you agree, since all evidence is being taken into account
Please stick to the topic.
And if you do have evidence about it being used and whatnot (as long as it’s not restricted in some way), then feel free to post it, as it just adds more fuel to the fire if you just mention you have a source/image and proceed not to post it
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I don’t agree. The OP posted anywhere and everywhere he could about it. If it was just 1 place, the forums, I wouldn’t think much of it.
But the common post is anti Russian, which people really need to stop being. There is no reason to be anti any nation.
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I can only assume what I saw was restricted, so I don’t dare post it
Yes, all of those are to everyone’s knowledge mockups and not functional.
Here is an image of Eurofighter with IRIS-T and METEOR missiles from 2001:
Meteors first test fire was done in 2006, before then there was no proof of the missile even functioning. Despite that it had already sold thousands of missiles years before first test fire.
IRIS-T had it’s first test fire in 2003.
The missiles presence on a showroom floor tells you absolutely nothing on it’s practical functionality or even actual existence. For all we know the images you show might be completely empty plastic cases with a TV seeker at the front to make it look more appealing to potential buyers.
Edit:
I do want to clarify that i’m not saying that they aren’t capable of building it or even if they have built it or not. The only thing i personally know as of now is that there is no evidence that they ever did have a functional missile, that evidence might exist, but i haven’t seen it and that is what a vast majority of users in this thread is looking for.
And honestly, i actually personally don’t care either way. The only thing i’ve strived for in this thread so far is that everyone arguing should be on the same page of what evidence does or does not exist, after that everyone is completely free to have whatever opinion they want.
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I mean, obviously it wouldn’t be plastic …!
That doesn’t even make sense.
As for being empty, of course they are gonna be inert … They are not gonna put a live warhead and rocket motor in an exhibition; Nobody does …
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Well the missile already existed, it’s just a seeker swap correct? So it’s a debate truly over whether or not the seeker is currently in service or exists?
I’ve seen things that suggest the seeker is being used in small numbers, and does exist. They have been deployed according to 2 sources, none of which I can link due to:
- Being politically a problem in the current climate of Europe
- More than likely classified
Technically we would need a proof of a working missile with working seeker being at least mounted on a plane.
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we’d also need proof of penguin ASM and the MFG’s ASM being able to track tanks
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Idk if you will find those.
it’ll come to us in a dream
I was making hyperbole statements to make a point :P
But yes, you are correct :)
Yep, more to that effect at least.
Those are obstacles in cases like these yes, as with any new military technology :)
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SRAAM as the potential comparison here…
This post is not saying it currently is.
Of course, it’s irrelevant to bring up the fact that SRAAM is meh.
that one was removed very early on, the kormaran doesnt have that ability since god knows how long
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