The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

Yeah… im not looking forward to 5km max lock ranges on the ASRAAM and R-74 being able to lock at 20km

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whats the effective range of the ASRAAM again? like 15km?

According to Sekrit soviet documents about 10km.

According to MBDA about 25+km

According to secondary sources 50km

Depending where you ask, from 20 to 50.

Most likely, this is just a contrasting picture of the sighting system (a photo of which has been around for a long time). And in the current conditions, the Su-34 does not use the sighting system at all and it is installed as ballast (except for operations in the Black Sea)

I can send them to you and we can assess.

I don’t have an opinion formed as I’m not familiar with it’s capabilities.

Take an ASRAAM and make it shoot ground vehicles not air vehicles.

But if you have no issue with a mockup weapon like KH-38MT then Typhoon should be just fine.

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They are both vehicles in this game.

It still passed through while others got denied for being fake. You either add everything or only add real things, without any exceptions.

True.
Fakes are a years old mistake that are never going away, at least in terms of people complaining about Gaijin rejecting their vehicles due to lack of evidence.

Who knows, it might come if Gaijin deems it’s a worthy addition.

Let’s assume it’s 0.
It’s still pretty much more realistic than many fakes we had in the game and is quite similar to 16AJ.

Gaijin uses the same seeker on all top tier IR AGMs.

How fast is it ?
What seeker does it use and how far away it could lock ground targets ?
How many of those can be attached to the plane ?

su-57 fly before kh-38mt is even relatively real would tell you sth

So sad! Ain’t important to the fact Russia was the first to get a proper counter.

Also it didn’t matter that Atakas had less range than what AH-1Z had, they still outranged everything ground based til 1.89 (atp heli-based AIM-9s were also pretty bad).

I wonder why you didn’t mention that heli based 9Ms back then were also utter poo tho ))
Cus Igla’s were unironically considered better.

And the AH-1Z was added with 1.81

So was the Mi-35M, can ya stop trying to whataboutism already? Bringing up “b-b-but this other vehicle…!” isn’t going to change the fact Russia in 1.87 was the only one capable of actually keeping other helis down, and its own heli in the air via the existence of Tunguska.

Arguing against this fact will just make you appear less genui- oh wait you’ve been defending Russia however you can and with every deflection and logical fallacy known to man and aliens alike. Nevermind.

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Very (regular ASRAAM is well over Mach 3)

Same as ASRAAM. I’ve seen 10 km engagement range mentioned somewhere I think.

Three per launcher. I guess up to 6 launchers per plane (same as Brimstone)

so 10km reliable, 25km on something slow or unknowing and 50km head on

Gaijin’s consultant for japan at the time made a mistake and claimed this configuration was built, when it in fact was not. The real Ho-Ri was partially built and looked very different.

So while now we know it’s fake, it wasn’t so at the time.

The swedish T-80 and Mi-28 are never going away from the tech tree. Sweden looked at them once so they got added.

It isn’t. For the F-16AJ we know all of its components worked as tested on YF-16 (and even many not in-game such as landing gear door Sparrows); we have no such evidence for the Kh-38MT.

Even if this is true, the 38MT benefits from much higher speed and having IOG.

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M3+

I dont know, it was never made, just like the KH-38MT, but just give it a Gen 3 Thermal + 25x Zoom and the same lock ranges as the AGM-65

Mockup shows 12 on a Harrier, but just limit it to 6.

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Flame has a source that it has the rear-aspect range 3x greater than Aim-9X and 6x greater in front aspect.

In terms of game, assuming a reasonable alt, Id guess 25-30km shots would be fairly reliable in a headon and 10-15km in rear aspect

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that would mean typhoon is pretty cracked

A year (four patches) later, and then missile SPAA was staggered in single patches. It was one of the longest CAS dominance sprees the game had. Same for the FJ-4B VMF 232, the first SPAA that could do anything about that was the Tunguska.

Shturm/Ataka being shorter ranged mattered, because that put it in range of the Sergeant York and at the edge of the range to other SPAA. Heli based heatseekers weren’t added until half a year or so after the addition of helicopters, and if you think that Iglas are better than the AIM-9L that the AH-1Z was given when helis did get heatseekers I don’t know what to tell you.
What did you even play back then that gives you this completely distorted memory? I was playing the AH-1Z, and while I’ve been going for meta CAS options for as long as I’ve been playing the game that one was by far the most broken one.

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I’m not arguing against that? The Tunguska certainly made top tier air unbalanced. It took one patch to rectify that, which is significantly less than a year. If you want examples for one sided CAS dominance lasting for a single patch there’s probably a dozen examples.

Yep, but no more so than KH-38MT vs Brimstone 1, AGM-65 or KH-29 is currently.