You do get that this is specifically about fact that overpenetration mechanic that HEAT warheads should qualify for, by mass doesn’t occur if the plate the fragments penetrate is greater than 20 / 30mm RHAe cutoff, not that the fragments themselves can or cannot penetrate the plate.
yes and that is why a HE only rocket can be better
also there isnt really an IRL reason they wouldnt, its not like the pressure wave doesnt extend forward or something
Notice how the other crewmembers aren’t dead? Even though they should be due to the way the overpressure mechanic works if it wasn’t limited?
That is the issue, do the same with a HE warhead and see what the result is.
Crew knock out by overpressure
A new type of damage has been introduced - excess pressure damage at the front of the shock wave. This type of damage is inflicted only on the crew and works as follows. If the fragmentation or high-explosive effect of an explosion hits one of the internal modules located in the fighting compartment (crew, tanks, breech, ammunition, drives), this means that the explosion was powerful enough to break through armour at the point of impact and therefore the crew will be affected by excess pressure in addition to other damaging factors. A ‘compartment’ in this case means a volume in which there are modules used to estimate the damage. For example, for Soviet MBTs, the fighting compartment contains all vehicle crew members, ammunition, aiming drives, internal fuel tanks, the breech of the gun, and radio equipment.
In the case of tanks of the M1 Abrams series, fuel tanks and ammunition located in separate armoured compartments are removed from this list, and for tanks of the Leopard 2 series, ammunition in the turret stowage is removed from this list, but the shells in the front of the hull are taken into account. For vehicles with a crew located in different compartments, for example the Ferdinand SPG, the overpressure mechanics will work separately and independently for the crew of the command compartment and for the crew members in the fighting compartment.
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Because it has low pen (almost same as armor thicknes) or/and low TNT. Zuni easily overpressues whole tank
The Kh-38MT is not going anywhere. Just like the Yak-141’s IRST isn’t going anywhere. Like the F-16AJ isn’t going anywhere. Just like the F-22 is probably going to go and get the HMD that it shouldn’t get.
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I wouldnt be so sure about that gaijin did talk about a plane thats been long request for japan next update so it could be replaced by the F-2
F-22 actually got HMD operational recently
Still no proof.
This missile is poof.
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he was replying to
Didnt a whole bunch of planes get hmd that didnt have one?
HMD is pretty OP with nametags we have in “realistic” battles. And they are all set to 20km.
Not on your life mate ahaha. Let’s reach 10k and see if they still ignore it lmao
Except the Yak-141’s IRST, nor the F16J, nor the future F22 HMD if it gets it, will be unbalanced like KH-38MT currently is. They don’t break the game, and the F16AJ especially was necessary for Japan, god knows they needed it.
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This poll already surpassed the stock APFSDS one by 209 votes, that’s roughly 13% bigger than the previous game changing poll 🤓
So yeah, I say this thread is a pretty valid concern for the devs.
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I really love popping back into this thread ever 2 or 3 days or so and seeing more coping and lack of ruski data and more evidence that these things dont exist.
5000 + comments and no evidence, is it really going to take a second thread once we’ve filled this one up before we get a statement from gaijin?
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does actual russian believe it exist? i dont see a russian forum here for some reason
The stages of cope are hilarious, we went from: “Kh-38MT is real, RIA Novosti and RT said so!” to “Well it might not exist, but it must be somewhere in a warehouse” and to “Actually it’s already in the game and the devs don’t care, it’s not going away, we win haha!!”
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Which ones are not supposed to have an HMD? I have an idea of one but fairly certain that isn’t the one you are thinking of.