Like I said before, I dont think its necessarily fair to say the Kh-38MT was a “clear” marketing lie. I did do a LOT of digging before I came to the conclusion it likely never operationally existed, chasing every single mention of it down to their inevitable source, the old marketing brochures/outdated online catalogue entries from KTRV/ROE, and there still is a slim possibility gaijin has info we don’t publicly have.
Id say their handling of the situation following the creation of this thread is more the issue. I can understand and to some degree excuse a mistake like putting a a variant (MT) that never existed of a missile that did(Kh-38ML) when there are “official” numbers for the missile variant on a brochure.
What I find much less excusable though is them not making a single announcement about the situation. No official “we’re looking into it, hold tight”, no “here is proof that it was operationally tested that the OP (me) did not find”, nothing. Just dead silence.
Its both suspicious, and insulting.
Gaijins now infamous response to a bug report that the EFT should be able to supercruise at M1.5 as per multiple sources from the makers of the jet was that, in gaijins opinion, this was “a clear marketing lie”. Dedale is poking fun at the fact that gaijin wont take the manufacturers of the EFT at face value on claims for a jet that very much does exist, but seems to have gotten dupped by what seems to be marketing material for a missile that never actually existed beyond mockups and brochures.
This question remind me of the issue about ZTZ99A 's turret armor. The lower part of its turret armor have an incorrect ke data. But the reporter said that we must prove that the part of the armor exist. According to this logic, Gaijin also should prove that kh38mt actually exists. If they can’t, they should remove it.
Ive already been told a bug report is not the way to handle this by gaijin staff. The thread is the best way to handle it allegedly, which makes me all the more angry there hasn’t been any official statement.
I think I’ll wait another week or two and then start reopening/refiling bug reports using this situation as a precedent. Maybe we could collab with some highly autistic guys as well.
Idk, im torn on the subject. Im unsure if bothering gaijin more about it will get them to reply, or if they are just truly awful at public relations but are working/deciding how to handle the situation and bothering them more will just make them angry about the situation and less reasonable.
Trying to be optimistic, but im 99% convinced they’re trying to let the situation die.
The fact its been 2+ weeks and they havent provided evidence despite knowing of the thread likely means they dont have evidence beyond the brochures and mockup pics.
The fact they havent shut the thread down is likely cuz shutting it down with no reason would be an admission of fault on their end, and would likely fan the flames.
Without a big CC bringing it up, the whole situation is largely contained to the forums, with the exception of a few ppl with little outreach posting it here and there. The thread/poll is big, very big for being made by someone with little to no outreach like me, but its still easily manageable if nobody starts to make it public to the rest of the WT community.
Like I said already, its been more than 2 weeks, and they’ve explicitly told me a bug report wont be accepted and the thread is the best way to handle this situation, which is why its all the more insulting they refuse to interact with the thread.
Since thread is being ignored, what else can you do?
Spam Stona in PMs?
Filling a bug report will make the issue official and with enough traction it will have to be adressed eventually. If the bug report gets shot down immidiately, we know that gaijin is following the issue closely and simply ignoring it in hopes of going away.
with spanish avenger’s poll regarding stock HEAT-FS at top tier needing a change, smin replied 4 days after that the dev server should answer spanish’s questions, with the poll having 1587 people voting on it. this poll has 1612 votes and still no answer from any higher up in exactly 2 weeks.
they are aware of the thread and are actively ignoring it (beyond the lower mods to ensure it doesnt get out of hand)