It was hopeless from the OP, would have been much better to just discuss why FnF missiles are problematic, half the posts read like twitter NAFO posts about how russia can’t make anything and are 50 years behind the west.
Would have been better to discuss how things like current map design/size/air spawns are problematic for FnF missiles, or how gaijin keeps doing horrible asymmetric rollouts of certain tech giving 1 nation a massive advantage for multiple major updates. For whatever reason RU top tier SPAA and CAS are just so far ahead of everything else for so long its mind boggling, but its not just a russian bias thing because we have shit like the F14 clubbing for over a year, then rolling out fox 3 fully and russia having to deal with r77 vs aim120, huge radar gaps, and having terrible launch platforms compared to things like f15E etc.
IDK if they are just milking american whales in ARB, and Russian in GRB, or what is going on but it sure feels like it.
People that have problems with 38MT as it might be fake are the ones that should be the OP of those threads, as fakes are clearly bothering them that much.
Don’t frame the pandora’s box opening on 38MT.
It’s clear that WT received it’s first fakes years ago and that trend continues to this day.
Gaijin (in recent times) refused to add weapons to vehicles because it never used them, or refused to add vehicles because they were only mockups. In rare cases when they did go against that policy, they explained why (e.g. yak-141), even if I don’t agree with their reasoning or logic.
And now we have this weapon that never left the mockup stage and far surpasses everything else in the same class.
This speaks to either negligence on Gaijin’s part, or a double-standard when adding things to some nations. If it’s negligence then they added it based upon nothing and the entire thing is made up and that got past their own internal systems. If it was willful adding it against their own policies then that needs to be addressed as well.
Not a fan of the thread devolving into this, but I understand the frustration ppl have with how unreasonable the USSR mains are being about this too.
The thread is largely meant to find and discuss evidence of the missile being operationally real, and since tge soviet mains have not been able to find a single shred of evidence beyond what I originally brought up (the brochures/outdated webpages and the mockups), theyve instead decided to waste everyones time arguing off topic why russia deserves to keep a weapon that does not meet the games typical standards of proof for additions.
On one hand, its whats keeping this thread alive, on the other, its not at all what this threads about as mods have pointed out over and over.
It REALLY doesnt help that gaijin hasnt made any statements in the meantime though.
dont get me wrong I would rather not have fake weapons in the game but if we arent gonna get any form of response from the devs I would prefer to show their hypocrisy when we ask for fake weapons that (actually have more evidence) then the KH38MTs for existing and they get denied
I don’t think it surpasses everything in its class, brimstones are forced in to SAL mode for no reason besides some nebulous statement about balance, there are plenty of other AGMs they can put on current platforms we have, but russia is allowed to have their FnF missiles and no one else is and how long is that going to last? How many more major updates? And why?
If brimstones got their FnF mode we might actually have enough uproar to get top tier maps fixed at the very least not have CAS spawn just outside SPAA but inside their AGM slinging range.
im gonna be honest if its a fake weapon but if its 1. reasonable to add in 2. its balance for gaijin to add in and like “oh we need something to balance out the CAS on ourside a bit and we will get you some better spaa” then sure but this thing is both fake as hell and unbalance
literally better than every fnf weapon in the game in a good airframe and doesnt cost a whole lot to spawn either and you can spawn 2 of them
Its not, learn to use buzzwords at least. Im arguing AGAINST russia in this case, not using another example to excuse the KH38. Whataboutism would be saying something like its fine for the KH38 to be like this because they got mavs/fnf agms before we did and now its their turn to suffer.
I’m really getting sick of the bitter bickering this thread has devolved into. We really need answers from the devs regarding the reasoning for adding this weapon into the game in the first place.
Gaijin’s own policies for adding weapons failed along the way and we really need a statement from them.