That is super relevant. The sp cost for a plane with that kind of weapon system is typically 840ish~
Meaning they had a large gap to make up…
And model every single thing in the game wrong and let it rot for years.
Its irrelevant due to fact that its entirely dependent on player, not the vehicle nor missile. Good player can make anything work.
I’m glad you just said that, because it means there shouldn’t be a single complaint from anyone.
“good player can make anything work”
Funny that brimstones can be carried as a max load of 18, and at best you get 6 KH-38s…
You also just said it’s not the missile, it’s the player.
Buddy just give up already.
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Subjective aspect in discission about vehicle or weapon is irrelevant.
In hypothethical scenario where two evenly matched players face each other, it comes down to vehicle or weapon performance.
And in this regard Kh-38MTs outperform brimstones in almost every aspect.
And Phantom can carry what, 285x FFARs, ergo its better CAS than Su-34 according to you, because it carries more ordnance?
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The thread has been succesfully derailed by whataboutism. :/
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No lol. Because it can carry more doesn’t make it inherently better, but given its systems, I would say it does. 1-2 passes with brimstones can cause a lot of damage, as can KH-38s, but KH-38s will run out far before the brimstones will.
Are we being hypocritical now?
It depends on a myriad of factors, not just pilot skull, but the plane itself, and it’s systems.
Ofc RU main will try to do that they don’t want their fake overpower stuff to be remove even if it “not exist”
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And my counterpoint F&F munitions are just as good at dealing with SPAAs as the extremely niche case use of Brimstones (prefiring) you provided.
SPAA has to either shoot down the incoming F&F munitions as they dont require guidance from plane or put pressure on the CAS plane, which is free to fully defend.
Once the pressure is off, CAS plane can move in to engage the SPAA again. Starting this dance again.
With Brimstones, the attacking plane had to choose between fully defending and putting pressure on the SPAA, it cant do both.
plane using SALH munitions is much more vulnerable during the attack than plane using F&F munitions.
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I will just leave this here.
and when two evenly matched players face each other other, player skill leaves the equation and it comes down to vehicle and ordnance capabilities. Thank you for agreeing with me.
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It does usually go that way. :/
I’ve also noticed that motorola has NOT made a thread about the f-16AJ, so he can’t have been that bothered about it.
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The point of prefiring is that you only get into LOS of the SPAA when your missiles are already almost there. At that point the only thing the SPAA can do is shoot down the incoming munition, which quickly becomes impossible if you send more than one their way.
That’s also not an “extremely niche case”, it’s the best engagement strategy against good SPAA players.
Except the Brimstones fly on IOG most of their flight time during this scenario, ie. essentialy turning into fancy unguided rocket, and succesfull attack hinges on getting perfect window of opportunity where you arent pressured by SPAA and Brimstone is close enough to intercept the SPAA but not close enough so that it can reacquire the targeting laser and correct its flight path.
Imma keep it 100 witchu chief, that sounds like a lot more effort than just smashing the spacebar every few seconds.
Not to mention the entire time you have to focus the SPAA whereas plane with F&F munitions can also engage other vehicles during that time. Meaning SPAA now has to choose between intercepting the CAS plane, the missile going for SPAA and missile going for friendly.
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okay that is rich comming from someone trying to defend the Kh-38MT
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All i see from him is excuse for Russia every damn times.
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Top 1% of players performing well with Brimstones doesn’t negate the fact that it takes an incredible amount of effort to use compared to Kh-38MT.
It takes so much more mental energy and skill to dodge and fly like you are on crack than just Zombie spawn in a SU-30/34 > ripple all 6 MTs in 5 seconds > RTB > repeat.
Now save yourself from further embarrassment as you save us from having to suffer your continued presence in this thread. Thank you.
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yeah there are 3-4 particular people I have noticed that seem set on dying on this hill that the KH-38MT is not only real but balanced to have in game BUT it would be unbalanced for other nations to get more advanced munitions to be in line with the MT
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such a coincident aint it
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