Apparently all they have time for is “sanitizing” this thread, LMAO.
It’s literally been a week and thousands of posts. There is no reason they shouldn’t have a statement on the topic.
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SM and MKI has way different avionics and compatibility
the MKI is developed for the Indian air force and use Israel/Western techs while the domestic SM is made for Russia only
due to the differences in avionics and technology the weapon compatibility of the two said aircraft are completely different
one could fire neighboring countries missiles while one stick to only domestic missiles
the MKI is way more expensive than a SM because of the avionics
the said avionics can be pair with either side
they wont address anything until its bigger than the boycott about last year ish ish
Forum Moderators need to wait for a response from gaijin before making any big updated on the missile, and gaijin themselves aren’t the ones watching the thread. Honestly, we have tended to get a bit far off topic, and i’ve heard that some of them are getting tired of putting up with it and the dumbass arguments people have been having here.
Them just blanket deleting hours of messages is definitely a surprise, but, honestly we should probably let the thread die down unless anyone has any new evidence, atleast until gaijin gives any word on this,
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LOL
Apparently talking about Su-30SM and Kh-38MT in Kh-38MT thread is off-topic
They even deleted the stuff about resolution and all.
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The devs themselves can, and have addressed topics themselves on the forum. There only reason to leave it to a middle man is to shift blame for bad reactions.
they wont ever address it im telling you
We are removing them as it is off-topic. Devs do not remove posts. As stated more than enough times, only info about the 38MT or things relating to it like seekers or similar looking parts should be posted
As I said above, and you talked about the targeting pod, which then devolved into more off-topic comments.
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And yet I still see half the arguments about keeping it whether it’s found to real or not. And their only rationale is “balance reasons”. Yet we can’t be allowed to refute that?
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The relevance is the fact that:
1- It’s a bit strange that Kh-38MT’s seeker resolution would be as good as Russia’s best targeting pod.
2- We were trying to explain why the devs would go for a questionable choice like Kh-38MT and whether that would have anything to do with balance etc
My explanation was the fact that some Kh-38MT carriers (Su-34 and Su-30SM) would lack thermal imaging otherwise.
3- The bit about A-10C was an example (to compare with Kh-38MT which was only seen as a mockup, yet added to the game) where the devs denied a weapon “because it wasn’t a live weapon but an inert one” even though it was mounted on a plane IRL.
So TBH I think it’s all related to the topic of Kh-38MT …
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Have you submitted a bug report about it, some have done it in the past but without enough evidence
You need positive proof to bug report something … So unless there is evidence saying Kh-38MT doesn’t exist you can’t bug report it …
TBH, given the issues regarding Kh-38MT, and the fact that Su-30SM probably can’t self-lase for Kh-38ML either (At least I have not seen any evidence for it and the TGP manufacturer’s website only lists MiG-35, MiG-29M/M2 and Su-35 and doesn’t list Su-30), feels like it’s basically a work of fiction for the sake of balance.
While as someone who enjoys playing Russia I do understand the issues regarding balance, this is just not the way to go about it …
That whole thing about removing the R2Y2s for the sake of historical accuracy and then this …
This is the thing that stands out to me the most.
Why would Russia be spending so much money on high quality 3rd generation thermals with 25x zoom on a missile when they can’t even mass produce targeting pods with similar specs?
Not to mention that high resolution 3rd generation thermals require cooling. Where is the cooling system inside the Kh-38MT?
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Oh damn that’s actually a big issue unless they just run coolant through the pylon and pray it doesn’t burn up en route to its target
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Well that’s how quite a few missiles do it. There is usually some way to store at least a little coolant on the missile too
However I think someone mentioned the pylons used not having the plumbing required. So I really don’t think it is high resolution
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As a Russian main I can say that we should get rid of Kh-38MT if there is not enough data for modeling it correctly if it exist. I dont play ground RB so I cant say how much it would affect effectivness of Su-34 even if it got for replace for example FAB-1500 UMPK or Kh-59M (APK-9) but in simulator would be actually those two weapons more suitable as Kh-38MT dont have big use (especially when Kh-29TD with bigger more effective warhead exist and thermal is not very crucial there). When we got more informations about Kh-38MT so then it can always return back.
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Apparently gayjin can super calculate stuff about missile performance (MANPADs situation) and armor stuff (M1 DU situation). But cant explain the cooling in 3rd gen thermal ON A MISSILE 🤣
B R U H
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To play devils advocate here, its possible/likely the missiles seeker would have onboard cooling if it was in-fact 3rd gen.
The issue with its thermal generation in-game on the flip-side is that there is (afaik) literally NO source on the thermal generation. Gaijin seemingly defaults to 3rd gen thermals on russian equipement when they cant find any information on the generation or resolution.
The 2S6M1 upgrade for the Tunguska is a similar situation, where despite the upgrade (2003) being older than the introduction of the Pantsir S1(2012), the 2S6M1 gets 3rd gen thermals while the Pantsir gets 2nd gen (french) thermals, because apparently Russia was WAAAAY ahead in thermal tech while their economy was in ruin, but decided to start penny pinching on their SPAAG’s when their economy was starting to improve. 🙄
Theres no real reason to believe that the Kh-38MT would be running 3rd gen thermals, particularly when, as some russian players have pointed out, Russians dont even tend to equip 3rd gen thermals for their aircrafts targetting optics in the first place.
Between no solid evidence of the missile existing beyond the mockup stage, and no evidence at all for 3rd gen thermals, I have no clue what gaijin was thinking when they added this weapon to the game…
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Anton, I have zhe perfect Idea to counter those annoying AGM-65s, the Kh-38MT would be the best counter to it:
Bigger warhead
twice as fast
Twice the range
Dammn, Ivan thats the best Idea you had in your entire career while beeing part of Gaijin Entertainment.
Start it, we need them ASAP!
Must be something like this
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The laws of thermodynamics state otherwise, it is essential for being able to view or detect objects that are not blazingly hot.
Essentially, the temperature of an IR sensor itself must be below the target temperature, or it won’t be able to detect anything as it will be just detecting itself.
For an imaging sensor, you would start to get fuzzy interference and not be able to see any background.
Of you want your imaging sensor to be able to provide a lot of detail of the surrounding landscape, such as that of the ASSM hammer or Storm Shadow, the sensor must be actively cooled.
Then, as the device is being used it will increase in temperature, the more powerful the sensor, the more heat it generates, so the cooling power must be proportional to the size and power consumption as well as how long it is being to be used for.
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