The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

“kh-38mt may not actually exist.”
sure thats the thread name, and if we’re gonna limit ourselves to wether it exist irl that is also pretty dubious, its a fair guess prototypes exist, some sort of seeker exists, but a prototype isnt the same as a production weapon, there is no proof it ever done any flying at all. all the proof is a single picture.

a prototype is good enough for gaijin

SRAAM
Ostwind 2
XM246
Ho-Ri Prototype
CLOVIS

i think thats enough examples

1 Like

such a false comparison, ostwind 2 and ho ri are essentially fictional and imo shouldnt even be ingame

sraam
xm246
clovis

we have quite a bit of evidence about and we know for a effect they underwent testing

They pulled the zoom from Kh-29T

how about 5x and gen 1 like the 65d

1 Like

They state the same 80%/60% (with/without countermeasures) Pk for all 4 variants and in old and new brochures, so I wouldn’t buy too much into it …

More of a “don’t blame us if you launched one and it didn’t hit (close enough)”

The numbers probably stem from project requirements …

Spoiler

image

1 Like

eh 65D is like 7.9x sth
and iirc 65D should have 780x780 pixel resolution but gaijin modeled it as 500x300(bummer)
kh-38mt is obviously bigger and say lets not doubt the ruski and treat them fair
id say its gen 2 and 15x zoom is fair enough since they are “new” to the IR game

its not
in game it is 4.92x

yeah but they all underwent testing
especially the amerikan

damn

Who TF knows?? At this point you either have to bring one here or convince a VVS depot officer to take a picture of the missile/bring out a GRAU entry for KH-38MT. That picture looks like a deliberate attempt of obfuscation rather than a proof of existence. If they lie about how good MiG-25 is why would they not lie about MT existing?

2 Likes

When the MiG-25 was first detected in the late 1960s, Western intelligence—especially the U.S.—was alarmed:

  • It was fast (clocked on radar at speeds over Mach 2.8–3.2).
  • It flew extremely high (above 70,000 feet).
  • It was large, suggesting powerful radar and fuel capacity.

U.S. analysts believed the MiG-25 might be a superfighter that could outperform the F-4 Phantom and the upcoming F-15. and a potential air superiority threat designed to destroy U.S. bombers and dominate dogfights.

This led to panic in U.S. defense circles and directly influenced the development of the F-15 Eagle, which was designed specifically to counter what was thought to be a very advanced Soviet fighter.

The truth was revealed in 1976, when Soviet pilot Viktor Belenko defected to Japan in his MiG-25P.

Upon inspection, the West discovered:

-The MiG-25 was made largely of steel, not titanium—because it needed to withstand extreme heat at high speeds but not maneuver at high g-forces.
-It had terrible maneuverability—not a dogfighter at all.
-Its radar was powerful, but used vacuum tubes, making it outdated by Western standards (but resistant to EMP).
-Its range was limited, and it was not as sophisticated as feared.

In essence, it was a high-speed interceptor, meant to shoot down high-altitude bombers (like the B-70 Valkyrie or SR-71).

The Soviets didn’t lie, but they did benefit from the ambiguity. They didn’t clarify its role or limitations, and they likely knew Western analysts were overestimating it. It was more about secrecy and misinterpretation than active disinformation.

7 Likes

Yes I oppose CAS and want all of it gone, but that happening is mostly out of the picture by now.
With that out of the way, I want planes to be balanced out appropriately if their deletion isn’t something Gaijin is planning to do.

I also had a chuckle at not hitting +90% pK in the best conditions haha.

6 Likes

I.e. the numbers do not reflect the actual performance of the missile …

1 Like

I oppose ground vehicles and want all of them destroyed :)

2 Likes

As of right now that makes no functional difference at all in game as long as you have a targeting pod.

That is not ideal conditions just ‘non countermeasure’. So doesn’t rule out other stuff.

this christmas i wish all ground vehicles a happy “target destroyed”