there is 1 picture of a the missile on a rail(of which we dont have in hour hands) and 1 picture of a mockup, that it as far as evidence goes, like at best the missile is in its prototype stage, but i wager its far more likely that its simply shelved, ill keep using kh69 as an example of a pretty advanced weapon that was showed first in 2022 and has entered active service and has seen combat already.
now whatever the IRL discussion may be i feel we’re forgetting we’re debating war thunder here, i dont think we have enough evidence to allow such a strong weapon to remain in the game.
Though I think gaijin pulled those numbers out of their rear, I dont have anything to disprove them beyond logic, and thats never gonna fly with gaijin.
We don’t even know if the missile mounted to the aircraft in the brochure is actually a 38MT. It has deliberately been taken from quite far away and is of poor quality.
even if its an mt, it would be the only ever picture of an mt we have seen other than a mockup, which should lead to the very real possibility of it being non functional.
if it was in context of a very new missile i wouldnt be saying that, kh38 family isnt new though
Why we’ve only seen the laser variant in combat use (or really, in general until the brochure was posted)
Why the claimed hit percentage under ideal conditions is so bad (80% probability of hit in ideal conditions is horrid)
The unofficial russian blog claims of the poor SEP (and it being accounted for by the large warhead.)
Its possible that the IR seeker is not really capable enough to offer any advantage over a laser seeker when drone laser designation is so prevalent anyways. May also suggest the the original point of inquiry I had on the missile (its potential inability to hit moving tank sized targets) might actually be accurate.
Unfortunately, I dont know enough about IR seekers to really comment on that point.
all of the pictures we have of the ML are from a certain recent conflict and as far as i know there are no pictures of the ML that arent from Ukraine or a mock up
Like I said, I have my doubts and am now on the fence on the subject. Theres stuff about the brochure that bug me, to the point of suspecting it may be a fabrication, but I really don’t have any definitive counterpoint to it atm.
I’ve always tried to keep this thread as objective and fair to both sides as possible. I’m not about to stoop to the level of the pro-russian players that have been claiming the missile existed without any solid evidence of their own since the thread was made and handwave the new info thats been provided just because I dont think the Kh-38MT is healthy for the game.
“kh-38mt may not actually exist.”
sure thats the thread name, and if we’re gonna limit ourselves to wether it exist irl that is also pretty dubious, its a fair guess prototypes exist, some sort of seeker exists, but a prototype isnt the same as a production weapon, there is no proof it ever done any flying at all. all the proof is a single picture.
