You’re assuming what they mean. We have 0 information on how the production occurs, how the modules are assembled.
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he isnt, they literally say it in the video
it is not in the subtitle because they didnt say it
Looks more like a metallic baguette to me (im joking)
Warhead module is separate from the “base module” which contains the INS + GNSS + other equipment
For warhead it makes sense to have two or more variants for various target types
But it doesn’t make sense to have two base module variants with and without GNSS as it basically achieves nothing other than costing more money and making your logistics more difficult
So you make one variant and enable or disable the GNSS depending on the target environment …
the french are maybe interested in that
it is not like they never had a metal baguette
You are still ignoring short and long wing variants
You just doing mental gymnastics triyng to make what you make up to be truth. While in fact everything is simple and there is no manafacturer lying, saying no GNSS for one missile variant and then that there is for newer one.
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Rocket motor exploding or catching fire in an exhibition can cause plenty of damage …
It’s newer variant, stop being so dumb, I already showed GNSS for old one being a part of Kh-38Mk seeker but you are keeping to be on your line of fantasy. You don’t even know if newer variant is in mass production, we seen only old one in use and new only as mockups.
So why does it say “INS”
Instead of “INS + GNSS” or “INS + Satellite”?
Note that the upper text is part of the video
While the lower text is the subtitle for the voice over
The answer is simple, they often don’t mention the GNSS because it’s a very trivial thing …
It costs little and it takes little effort to put a GNSS module into modern weapons …
And I told you that your picture:
Says “Active satellite navigation” and “active homing device” for the MKE variant
(When the “normal” GNSS guidance is not “active” nor “homing”)
Which means either the MKE variant has additional 'active" satellite communication / GNSS modules in the seeker section or the brochure has very (very) poor wording and representation which means it’s basically useless and doesn’t prove anything …
Because whoever made the video is stupid, should we talk about Su-39 still being in modern brochures?
you are dodging instead of admiting you might be wrong
https://web.archive.org/web/20150110212358/http://www.ktrv.ru/production/68/675/797/
https://web.archive.org/web/20210720182109/http://www.ktrv.ru/production/voennaya_produktsiya/mnogotselevye_rakety/rakety_tipa_kh-38me.html
No he’s not stupid
GNSS is a trivial thing these days, and they just don’t make mention of it
For MKE they mention it because it has no other guidance method, GNSS is the main guidance method … I.e. It needs GNSS …
I.e. no GNSS signal = failure to hit target
For other variants, GNSS just assists in eliminating the INS drift …
I.e. no GNSS signal = the missile can still be used (though the capabilities will be a bit limited)
accuracy at range would be the main loss right?
For example in a long range say 70km shot with SALH variant (which also implies illumination by another air or ground based platform), without GNSS the INS might drift enough that when the missile reaches the seeker range the seeker might not even be pointing in the right direction to look for the laser pointer …
Also in general, in case of losing the target in the terminal phase, you would have to rely on the INS, and having GNSS to correct for INS drift would improve your accuracy …
So since they don’t mention MTE at all we can assume it doesn’t exist!
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The video is literally titled “Kh-38MLE”
appreciate the explanation, i never quite visualize how ins drift would look like
okay there has been like 800 messages since I last looked in here how is it doing