Ah, true. Looking at it however, one of the images for the KH-31 clearly says it’s inert. Correct me if I’m wrong here, but isn’t that close to being mockup, aside from being able to be mounted and other things (ofc dangerous stuff like warhead or fuel) being removed? What stops it from being the same for the MT(E)? I guess it still somewhat counts as it’s mounted, but I’m not sure
Just a question, in case the inert definition is correct
Inert means no explosive warhead
i actually think gaijin shoul relax on some of their requirements personally, but as i already said before we’re 7.6k post deep and there still isnt any good prood, we got extremely new weapons like kh-69 which have actually already seen combat and there are numerous pictures of it.
for kh38 we got two pictures one of a mockup up and one of a brochures that as far as i understand we cant even get our hands on.
you can strap a non functional product on a rail nothing prevents that which is why a single picture is far from enough evidence of its existance. i literally dont see why there is so much friction. russia operates viable replacements, things like kh38ml already are ingame and strong.
RU site also doesn’t list the MTE or any other variant other than the MLE. Only the EN site has it listed. Inconsistent data.
One picture from 2017? and one from a 2024 brochure? Yet this missile has never been showcased at any EXPO event since the 2017 mockup. Only the MLE.
inert missiles are a production missile without the warhead and fuel so it is safe for training and in this case expos
they also list it as a seperate “sub”-variant of the KH-31P in this case
I mean … It kinda depends …
Of course if a manufacturer makes obviously impossible claims, yes, it doesn’t make sense to take their word
But sure, I know sometimes/often they deny reports without justification …
(And that’s not even the worst of it … Sometimes they just ignore the reports and leave them in “accepted / forwarded” state for years without any answer or action)
I benefit in what way ?
I have already answered this:
That’s taking a lot of assumptions that we can’t prove.
And no motor propellant
the KH-38 family of missiles are advertised as being modular, with the modular part being the seeker
it would make zero sense to have 2 sepereate production lines for the booster section of the missile
no
They are specifically advertising modular warheads right now.
lol
“with the modular part being the seeker”
I’m not arguing that the stats are wrong or should not be used.
ron_2303 keeps arguing that the the fact that the brochure has stats for the seeker proves that the seeker existed. I’m just pointing out that It is entirely normal for companies to advertise planned or predicted stats for hardware that does not exist. So it is completely wrong to claim that the existence of stats prove the existence of the seeker.
They in fact do, purpose of inert missile is to cause no damage
Me, when “no damage” inert missile turns my leg into a pancake after succumbing to gravity and impacting it.
you sure its kh69? i think its kh101
You are not looking at the screenshot
For them INS means INS + GNSS
So sometimes they say “Inertial + satellite” and sometimes they omit mentioning the satellite.
As for the ROE website, just like @ron_2303 said it doesn’t make sense for them to maintain separate production for the “base module” with and without GNSS modules …
The cost of maintaining separate production and the cost on the entire logistics system (you have to manage and store and transport two variants instead of one) and training (of technicians) far exceeded the tens to hundreds of dollars that you save on components by omitting the GNSS module and antennas on the second variant …
It’s obvious that they just mean it can function in two modes: with or without GNSS
The latter being for GNSS-denied/spoofed environment
You have the same thing with Brimstone, which can operate in different modes (though in this case, considering the cost of SAL and mmW seekers it might have actually made some economical sense to make single mode seekers as well)
