The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

[MotorolaCRO]

@Morvran

Right. So Su-25SM3 with 4x KH-38MT is a higher BR than the Tornado Gr4 with 15x Brimstone 1s shows just how unbelievably OP the KH-38MT is and why it should be a higher BR on the Su-34 and Su-30 which have none of the same weaknesses as the Su-25SM3 and in greater quantity.

This just shows how incredibly compressed BRs in Ground are for planes, which is nothing surprising considering they had to squeeze 14.0 all the way down to 12.7 and only very recently to 13.0.
SM3 sharing the same BR as SU-34 for months perfectly showcases that.

In a perfect world SM3 and Gr4 should share the same BR.

@tripod2008

The generic IR seeker’s performance was generated from overly generous secondary sources for the AGM-65A, and then chaining successive sources for the -65B, then 3x the range to reach what it is at the moment.

@tripod2008
Would be nice to see nerfs to IR seekers across the board.

@MrBombastic8

10.7 in a flying brick that can easily get shot down if spaa isnt sleeping

@MrBombastic8
AAs can’t shoot you down as 65Ds have more range than any of those at 10.7.

@MrBombastic8

F-16AJ is fake because Gaijin lazy and “F-2 not ready lah” but F-16 is a real plane

F-16A under Japan is fictional and should be removed.

That’s like giving China a Rafale or something.
Is Rafale real ? Yes.
Is Rafale under China real ? Don’t think so.

[MrBombastic8]

@MotorolaCRO

AAs can’t shoot you down as 65Ds have more range than any of those at 10.7.

you failed to realized that beyond 10km 65D is practically useless and can get shot down right
and flying low in an A-10 isnt good either
climbing high can get spotted and 65D on A-10 is the same as the Vark or F-15/16
They can still get shot down

@MotorolaCRO

F-16A under Japan is fictional and should be removed.

That’s like giving China a Rafale or something.
Is Rafale real ? Yes.
Is Rafale under China real ? Don’t think so.

fair point but
is KH-38MT real?
i dont think so

[ron_23]

@MrBombastic8

fair point but
is KH-38MT real?
i dont think so

well, you can compare it to a certain extend to the F-16aj imo, or the E100 as a better example
because the rocket itself exists the only thing that isnt real is the seeker itself

[Alpharius11348]

@MrBombastic8

you failed to realized that beyond 10km 65D is practically useless and can get shot down right
and flying low in an A-10 isnt good either

also a10a late doesnt have a targeting pod, good luck finding targets over 10km with 65d seeker

[MotorolaCRO]

@MrBombastic8

They can still get shot down

But your plane cannot. It basically has no counter from the ground at it’s BR.

@MrBombastic8

is KH-38MT real?
i dont think so

That thing probably has more realistic parts than what F-16A under Japan has.

[MotorolaCRO]

@Alpharius11348

good luck finding targets over 10km with 65d seeker

Good luck killing a plane at 9-10km with 10.7 AAs.

[MrBombastic8]

@MotorolaCRO

But your plane cannot. It basically has no counter from the ground at it’s BR.

I will insert SU-30SM and SU-34 here

[MrBombastic8]

@MotorolaCRO

Good luck killing a plane at 9-10km with 10.7 AAs.

i dont think most A-10 players just sit 10km away from the battlefield
something that a certain nation can do

[Alpharius11348]

you dont have to because the plane cant engage you from more than like 5km because of how bad the 65d optics are

[Morvran]

Was thinking that I have never ever had an issue with shooting down the A-10s in the Stormer HVM and that thing maxes out at about 6km

[MotorolaCRO]

@MrBombastic8

i dont think most A-10 players just sit 10km away from the battlefield

That’s honestly their issue.

@Alpharius11348

you dont have to because the plane cant engage you from more than like 5km because of how bad the 65d optics are

Yes it can, unless you have impaired vision.

[Alpharius11348]

@MotorolaCRO

Yes it can, unless you have impaired vision.

no it absolutly cannot

maybe you are mistaking it for kh38mt where for some reason the devs decided it should have better optics than many targeting pods?

[MotorolaCRO]

@Alpharius11348

maybe you are mistaking it for kh38mt

I’m not.

[Alpharius11348]

you absolutely are

that is ~8km out and from an angle where it is more apparent

there is no way you would be able to tell if something is a wreck or not at 10km
and it would be extremely hard to find the AA if I didnt have a real targeting pod or a marker over it

and before you say something stupid that is not behind the trees, it is just that low of a magnification

[MotorolaCRO]

@Alpharius11348

that is ~8km out and from an angle where it is more apparent

there is no way you would be able to tell if something is a wreck or not at 10km

Vehicle is outlined perfectly fine in that picture.
CAS in this game is pretty handheld so they get all the marks made by ground units shown.

@Alpharius11348

and it would be extremely hard to find the AA if I didnt have a real targeting pod or a marker over it

Doesn’t take much effort to find them in a 400m diameter circle around their spawn.

[Alpharius11348]

@MotorolaCRO

Vehicle is outlined perfectly fine in that picture.

lmao

there is literally no way to know if that is a wreck or not

or do you throw an agm at every heat signature you see and waste most of them on wrecks

[MotorolaCRO]

I guess no one moves or gets marked, ever.

[PercussionCap]

@MotorolaCRO

That thing probably has more realistic parts than what F-16A under Japan has.

Everything in the F-16AJ is real and it is missing a lot of features.

[Alpharius11348]

so do you just like hover in place to watch them?

[ron_23]

no the F-16 that was demonstrated to japan was toataly different from what we have ingame