The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

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@Silversting

I remember the developer changed Rafale’s FM using a video. When you need documents to change the flanker’s flight model

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@Necronomica

For all we know the images you show might be completely empty plastic cases with a TV seeker at the front to make it look more appealing to potential buyers.

I mean, obviously it wouldn’t be plastic …!
That doesn’t even make sense.

As for being empty, of course they are gonna be inert … They are not gonna put a live warhead and rocket motor in an exhibition; Nobody does …

[UniqueScorpions-live]

Well the missile already existed, it’s just a seeker swap correct? So it’s a debate truly over whether or not the seeker is currently in service or exists?

I’ve seen things that suggest the seeker is being used in small numbers, and does exist. They have been deployed according to 2 sources, none of which I can link due to:

1. Being politically a problem in the current climate of Europe
2. More than likely classified

[DevilO6]

@UniqueScorpions

So it’s a debate truly over whether or not the seeker is currently in service or exists?

Technically we would need a proof of a working missile with working seeker being at least mounted on a plane.

[かがり]

we’d also need proof of penguin ASM and the MFG’s ASM being able to track tanks

[DevilO6]

Idk if you will find those.

[かがり]

it’ll come to us in a dream

[Necronomica]

I was making hyperbole statements to make a point :P

But yes, you are correct :)

@UniqueScorpions

it’s just a seeker swap correct? So it’s a debate truly over whether or not the seeker is currently in service or exists?

Yep, more to that effect at least.

@UniqueScorpions

politically a problem

@UniqueScorpions

classified

Those are obstacles in cases like these yes, as with any new military technology :)

[AlvisWisla]

SRAAM as the potential comparison here…
This post is not saying it currently is.

Of course, it’s irrelevant to bring up the fact that SRAAM is meh.

[dotSHINI]

@かがり

MFG’s ASM being able to track tanks

that one was removed very early on, the kormaran doesnt have that ability since god knows how long

[Morvran]

Well, there is verified evidence that SRAAMs have actually had multiple test firings. So whilst they are a prototype weapon that was canceled before entering service, they did at least exist in their entirity and were functional. Which is likely the bare minimum requirement for a weapon system to be added.

[Silversting]

The Yak-141 at least took off, but the F-16AJ doesn’t even exist.

[Silversting]

Even we - Russians can’t change IRST.

1. Need 2 sources
2. Need to indicate which plane will be found from 50/90 km, but the book doesn’t say this

[UniqueScorpions-live]

Similarly there are Russian IR ATGMs that we don’t have in game.

[DevilO6]

There are many weapons not added from many nations.

[kitsune_qq]

Any serial ones?
From what i remember - there was only few KH-25MTP with IR seeker and thats it

[ron_23]

there is also an IR Kh-29

[BBCRF]

Remind them that Rafael’s maneuverability has been changed by video

[kitsune_qq]

there wasnt

[G0dzilla451]

to make it a level worse it sitting on the sarh pylon so you cant take 2 of these and 4 phoenixes