FlakRakRad being better, ADATS just cant lock anything half the time
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I’m not defending anything, I’m demonstrating that the exact same thing in that video works with pretty much every IIR F&F AGM. If you want to complain about the KH-38MTs being strong at least use something that’s unique to them.
I could but I cant be bothered to go look not when the majority of people here already know its OP the only reason I would go find one is to watch the russian mains do mental gymnastics to claim its “balanced”
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So you agree you picked an example that is completely pointless then. Begs the question why you’d even post it.
Are they in the room with us? Also complaining about “mains” is hilarious considering it’s coming from someone that only ever played one nation at top tier and developes temporal amnesia whenever the discussion shifts to what advantages that nation might have had in the past.
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yes Ive only played the UK at top tier because I stopped playing the game pretty much every day, but I have been going up both germany and Russia, germany at 7.7 and russia at 8.7 (not gonna count the BMP2M)
the difference is im not trying to defend something that is blatantly OP with no counters from any other nation lol
not even sure what thats about but alright
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Very relevant in a discussion about top tier weapon systems.
How would you know? Not like you played what the competition has, or the Russian stuff to experience its limitations. I vastly prefer the Rafale over the Su-30SM. Many people I play with feel the same.
Not like you can’t have an opinion, but maybe don’t toss stones about people “maining” a nation when you’re sitting in a glass house.
About the GR.7 being the only plane with TGP and IIR F&F AGMs for a year.
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Let’s ignore the fact that VT1 and ADATS G-pull is ~15g to ~20g worse than pansir at range…
Because the 50g VT1 is totally something the missile can do for its entire flight.
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and this isnt about the Su30SM or Refale? its about the KH-38MT?
na I will when I see a russian main claim the KH-38MT is balanced and russia needs it lol
fair enough I thought there was a plane with a TGP and AGMs before it, it was also our first plane with FnF AGMs so ya know
I will assume you also never played the Gr7 on release because for about 3 months the TGP was bugged and would either not work at all and get stuck, which was fixed but then not even a couple days later there was another bug that just made the screen black when you switched to it. now dont get me wrong when it worked it was really good but it rarely worked for the first few months
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And the KH-38MT and the planes that fire it don’t exist in a vacuum. For it to be “OP” it needs to vastly outmatch the competition. People prefering to play the competition indicates that the platform you’re complaining about isn’t as good as you think.
Who did you see, then? The only “nation main” in the last couple posts I can find is you.
That affected most TGPs and was due to some weird switching between the internal camera and the TGP, I think. It was a problem for SALH munitions, not much for F&F ones. On top of the Gr.7 being very unique and strong back then you could get into it without ever spawning a tank by using the AH Mk.1 with Starstreaks as first spawn. And other nations had nothing comparable at all.
yet in all my games at top tier recently every match has had Su30SM and Su34s yet I barely see Refales on both my team and the enemy team curious
i mean if you literally cant use the TGP not much of a bonus right?
that worked IF the enemy had several light tanks or SPAA, not to mention not everyone who has the Gr7 has the AH Mk1 hell I still dont have it because the heli grind is awful, it only got better with the ability to research helis with ground vics and by then the age of the harrier dominating was over.
and look at it now the only heli that cant spawn with any form of A2A weapons immediately
Have you ever noticed something called “drag”? Its a thing all missiles have with the VT1 having the most drag
Have you been around long enough to remember a lot of people complaining about the G.91 R/3 being OP and ruining top tier?
The TGP issues were not that restrictive, and fixed soon enough. Again, it was without any competition for a year, some teething issues hardly take away from that. And while the Starstreaks are limited to use against lightly armored targets it’s not like anyone else had anything comparable either.
Was here 700 posts ago, anything changed beside Motorola gaslighting the everliving hell out if everyone?
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No, and what did he do?
it honestly just sounds like your going after 2 of the better things the UK has gotten over the years to try and get a reaction out of me which, cant blame you its probably funny to watch issue is that I know thats what your trying to do and I do agree back when they were good they were strong, but that was awhile ago now you could at least try to say something the UK currently has is OP or unfair
it was a long while ago but yeah I remember it, what about it?
nope it is funny to watch him try to say the KH38MT is balanced
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Hes gaslighting…well the word i would use would land me a ban but you get the idea
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I’m not going after it. I originally brought it up and asked if that having happened was bias. And the answer is that of course it wasn’t. The top tier CAS crown has been going around since the inception of GRB, and people get so hung up on the current state of it that they forget all previous instances.
It was easy and reliable to use, so it quickly became the mainstay of top tier CAS. People got killed by it a lot, which led to complaints. People complaining caused more awareness, and more people jumping on the train to use it. Which led to more complaints.
What got lost to a lot of them was that the FJ-4B VMF 232 had been in the game far longer than the G.91 R/3 and was arguably better at the job. So the “problem” people complained about wasn’t really that the G.91 R/3 was the strongest or most OP platform. It was that it was super common and got a lot of kills.
The same is happening with IIR F&F AGMs and the KH-38MT, really. They’re all too strong for GRB, and in the current state of it a 30 second absence of hyper aware CAP and SPAA is punished with a single plane wiping half the ground team in a single pass.
The KH-38MT slingers are the easiest to use with the lowest skill ceiling, so people play that, you see a lot of kills with them, people complain about that. And all the other vehicles that can do pretty much the same thing with a slightly different use profile fall off the back. The main issue isn’t addressed at all.
As for the Rafale specifically, minor nations always get fewer players, so of course you’re getting killed by it far less often.
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dont get me wrong the AGM65 is really good as well, but the differnce is that the KH38MT is better then the AGM65 but there is a good chance the MT isn’t even real when instead we could have gotten the Kh25MTP which is far more akin to the AGM65, do I think the CAS issue will be fixed if the MT is removed? obviously not
I just hope with its removal and the introduction of more potent sams next update it actually gives ground a good chance since they wont have to deal with a mach 2.2 AGM.
which I fully understand I just dont see that as an issue if you rarely see it is it actually an issue? like the VMF you mentioned that thing was an event plane and yeah was incredibly strong when you ran into it but I think I can count on my hand how many times I saw one. not to mention there is a strong chance the Hammers are gonna be heavily nerfed but we will have to wait and see on that one
you do get that the ADATS is a beam riding missile right? So if you pull too hard itll go out of the beam and lose tracking. Its also got less range, is slower and doesnt have any strobelight on the back of the missile so you dont even know where the missile is after around 2km of flight as thats when the booster ends.
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