Nah, soviets need a new SPAA first, Maybe in a year or 2 other nations can get something better. It is unfair the soviets only have the Pantsir to fight SAL brimstone 1s and AGM-65. They are barely managing to defeat ADATS with the KH-38MTs they have currently :P
What planet do you live on? The Strike Eagle is still only running around with 65Ds which can be found all the way down at 10.7, or 2 AGM-130s which are an option if you really want to just let SPAA get 2 munition kills.
Nah, SLS will be subpar if everyone else gets a “similar” class SAM system.
Spyder AIO, CAMM, VL MICA, FB-10A, and AMRAAM (US is likely getting SLAMRAAM I guess) are all in the ~17-25km class, and all carry 6-8 missiles, while the SLS is the 12km class and is carried in either 2 or 4 depending on the vehicle. I’m not expecting great things for Germany/Sweden at all with this update.
I would not be surprised if the Russians get a Pantsir S1M this update with 30km range to “keep up with the other nations” tbh
I dont really envision any of the new SAM systems are gonna do a whole lot of much to Kh-38MT/AASM spammers, everyone else is likely gonna be impacted for significantly though
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somebody didnt look at the context
the message was about that after the KH-38mt will be removed and the IR AASM works like it does IRL
Range it really less concerning
Radar is what worry me as long as it has good radar TWS it still possible to intercept things like KH-38
if same as Flarakrad well it will be useless.
best part about fox3 SLS is that they can be just notched
I was thinking S300s but sure. that works too
they will get the S75 probaly
but there isnt really an alternative though. They could always be tuned to be harder to notch than Air Launched Fox-3s. but I just cant think of any SPAA that would be adequate without Fox-3 slingers like SLAMRAAM and Skysabre
At least they would be FnF and some like the CAMM would be very hard to kinematically defeat at shorter ranges.
Except he’s still wrong? I read the context just fine thank you very much.
KH-38MLs, KH-29TDs, Laser AASMs, Brimstones, and EGBUs will still exist, in addition to all the other Maverick slingers. The F-15s are not some outlier just because the KH-38MT gets removed and the IR AASM gets corrected
Range being only 12km means you wont be able to intercept the jets themselves unless they play REALLY stupid, so you’re just opting in to being a glorified CIWS station.
The real issue with the SLS systems tho is the munition count. 2-4 with a single reload using the ammo box is utter garbage, it means you cant even intercept a full salvo of the mythical Kh-38MT’s. You’d need 75-150% of your total interceptors (counting the resupply box) just to deal with a single salvo from the Su-30/34, Rafale, or US jets with 6x 65D’s.
Thats not gonna cut it, the SLS just straight up isnt a top tier worthy vehicle. Its a Type 81 (C) sidegrade, with better missiles but half or a quarter the missile load.
the only thing you listed that is FnF and not laser guided is the KH-29TD which has a shitty seeker compared the the agm65d
laser guided weapons are not going to be magically be more convinient and better to use than FnF ones
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I was more thinking towards them getting something like BUK or TOR honestly but another Pantsir wouldn’t surprise me either.
On another note entirely. If and this is a big IF but if gaijin does decide to respond to the KH38MT issue i wouldn’t be surprised if they decided to swap it out with KH-59 as that definitely does exist and is also in the files currently and fills a similar role.
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what about the second part of my argument, the more important one?
you are arguing in bad faith and you are dismissing the main part of my argument and tell me to “Cry more” even tho i made an objective statement on the seeker of the KH-29TD which you aknowledge to be true
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Too slow for Russian main if other able in intercept it they gonna cry
too long range for US-mains they cant see the plane when the KH-59 gets fired
Doesn’t matter because I said so.
Well i guess my Gripen still need to eat brainless fantasy KH-38 slinger then.