Hes claiming it has to break physics to be FnF essentially.
When IRL its got about a 30km range on a non moving target and it says on the munitions page for it about 12km for moving. sooo
Yup, I cant wait for them to get even 10% of their IRL performance
1 Like
It was a balancing tool on the SU25B3 not on a damn su30 or su34 xD
they would be more than fine with KH29Ts is it? the ones found on the Su39 and event su 25.
As well as on the SU22.
the brimstone as was said back when it was added is near useless compared to hte P4’s and Jdams on the typhoon.
Just gonn aaccept it.
Like I gotta accept ima be 0.3 BR below the T72AV turms with L23 ammo xD
The lack of evidence to say its real is the major annoying thing here though.
Why add it , if it cant even be proven to be real
Youll be waiting some time mate.
lots of flags and deletions
2 Likes
No, of course not. The Brimstone exists with LOAL functionality, which is necessary for it to work as the mmW radar can only acquire targets at comparatively short ranges. Cut out the LOAL functionality and you end up with something that has no useable range. The “FnF only, no LOAL” version of the missile people are asking for is thus either useless (very short range) or physically impossible (hard lock at ranges the radar can’t possibly manage).
By plugging wavelength and maximum possible radar reflector diameter into the formula used to determine the diffraction limit of optical and radar systems.
Ight’ let’s sort this out:
Who here has used the Kh-38MT?
- Have used
- Have not used
0
voters
If you have used it, would you want it to stay or go based on evidence provided in this thread?
ONLY VOTE ON POLL 2 IF YOU HAVE USED THE Kh-38MT
also vote on poll 1 first so I can better track of people who have voted.
- Keep it
- Remove it
0
voters
edit: 2 people voted to have it gone but didn’t vote that they’ve used it on poll 1 and its hurting me T-T
edit 2: only 15 people (as of 1:39 pm CST 4/23/25) have said that they have used the Kh-38MT, so there should only be 15 votes on poll 2, but there are 22 votes, so whoever those extra 7 votes are, sort your stuff out.
okay how Brimstone break physics can you prove that?
far as people know LOAL brimstone is real compared to KH-38MT
and there are picture of it being carry by
Harrier
Tornado
EFT
even test fire by Apache
6 Likes
go ahead and explain how brimstone breaks physics lmao
What “wavelength” we going for here? cause radar wavelengths can vary from 0,1mm to over 1m
You can either have a decent discussion, and not be a wido or not.
I have the radar size here from the missile however I wasn’t able to find the exact frequency of the radar waves.
even with LOAL that still makes 0 sense it would not effect the range of hte radar reflector all it does mean is it can lock after its launching.
1 Like
Go read the entire conversation. I didn’t say anywhere that the Brimstone breaks physics.
Asking me that takes longer than just googling it. The Brimstone uses a 94 GHz mmW radar. Do you need the diameter too or can you find that on your own?
6 Likes
beat me to it
[…] asking for an implementation of the Brimstone […]
That implementation being FnF and no LOAL, as pointed out in the exact same post you took that quote from.
but Brimstone LOAL is not break physics or fake
“It Real” even more real than entire existence of KH-38MT
2 Likes
please find where someone asked for a physics breaking brimstone then?
so far its just asking for mode 2 people want as a balancer to the fake putinium missile
i think what he means to say is that brimstone cant lock targets from far away using its own MMW seeker, making it a bit tricky to use in crowded scenarios with possible teamkills
Just checking in, Still no proof?
4 Likes
Given it is able to ID the thing its targeting, I think giving it IFF wouldnt be unreasonable if they are really that concerned about it.
IRL you wouldnt have Leopards vs Leopards for example, so a little bit of creative license for a situation that wouldnt normally exist IRL wouldnt be unreasonable
just the same stuff as always.
1 Like