You need positive proof to bug report something … So unless there is evidence saying Kh-38MT doesn’t exist you can’t bug report it …
TBH, given the issues regarding Kh-38MT, and the fact that Su-30SM probably can’t self-lase for Kh-38ML either (At least I have not seen any evidence for it and the TGP manufacturer’s website only lists MiG-35, MiG-29M/M2 and Su-35 and doesn’t list Su-30), feels like it’s basically a work of fiction for the sake of balance.
While as someone who enjoys playing Russia I do understand the issues regarding balance, this is just not the way to go about it …
That whole thing about removing the R2Y2s for the sake of historical accuracy and then this …
Why would Russia be spending so much money on high quality 3rd generation thermals with 25x zoom on a missile when they can’t even mass produce targeting pods with similar specs?
Not to mention that high resolution 3rd generation thermals require cooling. Where is the cooling system inside the Kh-38MT?
As a Russian main I can say that we should get rid of Kh-38MT if there is not enough data for modeling it correctly if it exist. I dont play ground RB so I cant say how much it would affect effectivness of Su-34 even if it got for replace for example FAB-1500 UMPK or Kh-59M (APK-9) but in simulator would be actually those two weapons more suitable as Kh-38MT dont have big use (especially when Kh-29TD with bigger more effective warhead exist and thermal is not very crucial there). When we got more informations about Kh-38MT so then it can always return back.
Apparently gayjin can super calculate stuff about missile performance (MANPADs situation) and armor stuff (M1 DU situation). But cant explain the cooling in 3rd gen thermal ON A MISSILE 🤣
To play devils advocate here, its possible/likely the missiles seeker would have onboard cooling if it was in-fact 3rd gen.
The issue with its thermal generation in-game on the flip-side is that there is (afaik) literally NO source on the thermal generation. Gaijin seemingly defaults to 3rd gen thermals on russian equipement when they cant find any information on the generation or resolution.
The 2S6M1 upgrade for the Tunguska is a similar situation, where despite the upgrade (2003) being older than the introduction of the Pantsir S1(2012), the 2S6M1 gets 3rd gen thermals while the Pantsir gets 2nd gen (french) thermals, because apparently Russia was WAAAAY ahead in thermal tech while their economy was in ruin, but decided to start penny pinching on their SPAAG’s when their economy was starting to improve. 🙄
Theres no real reason to believe that the Kh-38MT would be running 3rd gen thermals, particularly when, as some russian players have pointed out, Russians dont even tend to equip 3rd gen thermals for their aircrafts targetting optics in the first place.
Between no solid evidence of the missile existing beyond the mockup stage, and no evidence at all for 3rd gen thermals, I have no clue what gaijin was thinking when they added this weapon to the game…
Anton, I have zhe perfect Idea to counter those annoying AGM-65s, the Kh-38MT would be the best counter to it:
Bigger warhead
twice as fast
Twice the range
Dammn, Ivan thats the best Idea you had in your entire career while beeing part of Gaijin Entertainment.
The laws of thermodynamics state otherwise, it is essential for being able to view or detect objects that are not blazingly hot.
Essentially, the temperature of an IR sensor itself must be below the target temperature, or it won’t be able to detect anything as it will be just detecting itself.
For an imaging sensor, you would start to get fuzzy interference and not be able to see any background.
Of you want your imaging sensor to be able to provide a lot of detail of the surrounding landscape, such as that of the ASSM hammer or Storm Shadow, the sensor must be actively cooled.
Then, as the device is being used it will increase in temperature, the more powerful the sensor, the more heat it generates, so the cooling power must be proportional to the size and power consumption as well as how long it is being to be used for.
Not to mention that high resolution 3rd generation thermals require cooling.
Thats cool, I never heard about that before. Why does it need cooling? Is the tech so advanced that it generates heat while operating (like a gaming computer) or something? Genuinely curious.
pretty sure its not exactly how it works, its meant to detect EM waves (IR) essentially not heat. due to blackbody radiations, the heat of the object emits these IR waves.
however still yes, cooling is required for better contrast and detection for a IIR seeker, afaik IR itself, the early aim9b and aim4 missiles had cooled seekers
the only thing I can think of as being “fake” recently was the F-16AJ and people were demanding that be removed as well. since then I dont think a single “fake” tank or plane has been added and I agree both the F-16AJ and the KH-38MT should be removed (if we really wanna get into it they should remove either the radar or the IRST on the Yak-141 as well)
I was just pointing at the fact how Gaijin knowingly will add fake things for the sake of it. They also remove those only when proper replacement come around.
So yeah, Gaijin has little reason to remove it at the moment.
certainly a double standard with some players, want OP things kept as are (XM800T) or fake things kept in game (R2Y2) despite not fitting in with a real vehicle only rule because they do well in them or they are OP or both (Ho-Ri and KH38MT).