Show us the kh-38mt mounted on literally any aircraft at all if you want to go down that route
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seem having best SPAA covering their as forcing enemy CAP to stay low and stick with horizontal maneuver still aren’t enough for Russian i guess
GR4 don’t have FnF Brimstone for balance reasons even its worse platform possible and no best SPAA covering their as yet SU-34 is exception for KH-38ML that probably not even exist heh despite having all covered.
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Buddy gr4 is an upgraded gr1. They are the same vehicles. They didnt lose earlier capacities.
Seriously grasping for straws
He is crying nooo the weapon has never been shown on that exact aircraft version.
While the KH38MT existence cant even be proven. Thats worlds apart from a standard
Torgado never had the ability to carry PGM. There was only one test aircraft with such a capability. And of course, weapons are always integrated into aircraft that are not going to be installed, bought and used. It’s so easy.
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UAE literaly bought them to use on their aircraft tornados.
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The only difference between that tornado and normal one, was that this one was a recce version, replacing guns with cameras.
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@Segment seriously how about you prove the KH38MT being fired at all?
Pgm , sraams as of right now will always be more realsitic then the KH38MT.
You are comparing apples with peaches and your argument is completly useless, cause u cant prove the KH 38MT and are grasping for straws
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I was replying to this post.
So according to the gaijin rules the Kh-38MT can be in the game, like many other weapons.
How is it with you rusmains that whenever something of yours is brought into question, y’all automatically resort to whataboutisms and trying to compare apples (i.e weapons that actually existed in the configuration that they are in the game, and have been carried by aircraft and test fired) to oranges (i.e things that pretty much never existed)?
Just prove that Kh-38MT was used/carried by literally anything and that it exists, should be simple enough, but so far none of you have done so, I wonder why.
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They use them on Mirage 2000 and F-16. Never seen UAE Tornado with PGM.
It has been mounted and fired we have shown that to you. The backwards compability exists and stays.
You werent able to prove the same
Well, bit of a fun fact about that.
The manufacturer website stopped showing military products a while back (no clue exactly when since the archive links for it are all broken starting around late 2022 it seems), and is just fully inaccessible now.
On the other hand, I have picked up an archived version of its catalogue entry for the Kh-38ME, and the info is actually neatly split down the middle.
The 3 main things of note are;
- The munition is still noted with the “E” designation, indicating it to be for export (suggesting looking at the actual exporter website is valid)
- MLE/MTE are noted as options (point towards MTE not being a dropped program yet at the time?)
- The mockup used for the MTE isn’t the MAKS 2017 mockup, its the MAKS 2009 one. It doesn’t have anything resembling the izdeliye 65MT seeker, with the 9-B-7738 seeker seen on the MAKS 2009 mockup. (points towards it not having left the mockup stage)
So the manufacturers website doesnt actually tell us much of anything regarding this discussion, firstly because its ~3 years out of date, and secondly because it has points in favour of each camp.
If anything, I’d suggest it actually points even more in favour of the Kh-38MT NOT being real, since;
- Despite the manufacturer using the export designation, the exporter isnt mentioning the Kh-38MTE as an option, suggesting it cannot (yet?) be purchased.
- Even the manufacturer doesn’t have a newer model than the MAKS 2009 mockup to use for their brochure (we already knew this cuz they used the MAKS 2009 mockup for the CGI design on the 2021 brochure I provided in the original post, but this just corroborates things)
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Covering their ass against Harriers, you said it yourself buddy.
Dying to Pantsir in your 14.0 jet is like dying to Su-34, pure skill issue. Sorry that I had to tell you this way.
Gr4 already has FnFs + 15 Brimstones, what more do you want ?
You can’t prove it. So the Kh-38MT has as much right to exist as the SRAAM on the Harrier and the PGM on the Tornado.
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yet Brimstone which combat proven and have mmW FnF still lack it was designed for in the game
but KH-38ML that at this point probably not even real at this point.
Cope.
SRAAM on the Harrier
Cope.
Now where’s your proof of Kh-38MT being carried by Su-25SM3/Su-34/Su-30SM?
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Can we keep this on-topic instead of arguing about the PGM and SRAAM again please?
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Read it again
He probably means the kugelblitz. But there are pictures of the turret and shipping forms for it iirc. So not fake aswell just not good documented because germany got fucked from all sides (many german projects in 1944 and 1945 have that problem).
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Or he means the ostwind 2, but the problem with the ostwind 2 is that gaijin modeled the dual flak 37 wrong with are not horizontal but vertical. So more or less a bug than a false vehicle
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