The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

A bit off topic but would you guys be fine with the Kh-38mt staying if the Eurofighters get to carry 12 of the equally obscure air-to-ground ASRAAM?

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That is kinda the ultimate outcome of this thread. if a mockup of the KH-38MT is enough, then can everyone else get mock-up weapons

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LMFAO no. You got that backwards bubba. They are ~1 secondfaster IRL.

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for me its the missing GNSS+IOG+Laser guided bombs on literally every top tier US plane other than the new f18c

i can tell you exactly how we ended up here:

  • gaijin added the Kh-38 on the Su-25SM3 to make it special
  • they added the Kh-38 on the Su-34 because it wouldnt make sense for it to carry the Kh-29 when the Su-25 is carrying the Kh-38
  • they added the Kh-38 on the Su-30 because it wouldnt make sense for it to carry the Kh-29 when the Su-34 is carrying the Kh-38

so it is a classic case of powercreep
just like the F-15E, the Rafale or EF

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do you have to summon him back?

NGL it makes me hopeful we can get the AAM-4 TDR, the extremely obscure ramjet powered AAM-4 .(Which did actually have a successful test, so it’s actually somewhat fair to get anyways.)

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the thing is all the other MBTs would have more or less the same reload then

Yeah…

It’d certainly make Japan more unique. Hopefully we get it on the F-2.

maybe after we get the f-47 for the US

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mm, thanks. somehow this suggestion zipped past me. to clear things up, I was somewhat quoting a russian game master columbus_13. he wrote a lot of things against the addition of r73 to helicopters on the russian forum. but yes, enough off topic shenanigans

Yes I know what they are… i didn’t ask about that, I was just talking about how the seeker itself is swapped on these I believe. As they are modular

All sources ive seen referring to Kh-38M use during thd conflict explicitly mention the Kh-38ML being the variant used, and/or state the targets are stationnary bridges.

The news articles do mention the MT as an option of the missile, but its always been in a paragraph explaining the missile and basicly just regurgitating the info from the brochures.

From what you’re saying, it sounds like thats what he’s referring as “evidence”. I’d love to actually be able to discuss those sources directly so as to not sound like I’m bending the info in my favour, but I understand the rules and wont.

If mods check a source and confirm it to actually have info confirming the use of the Kh-38MT that cant be posted on the forums, would it be possible to PM it to me for me to double check?

I mean, at this rate…

the US could get the AGM-53, which is basically a Kh-38 with TV guidance that was actually tested (although much older so idk about tracking capabilities)

lots of AGM yet to be added, simply definition of powercreep tbh.

stuff like popeyes can go 100km with man in loop + iir

we will need multi vehicular spaas till we get to these long standoff range AGM

I thought that was purely man in loop guided

I dont think its fair to state bias as a reason for the MT being mistakenly added into the game tbh.

The fact it exists on a brochure and there are 2-3 mockups in existence, along with the fact news articles havent always done a great job at seperating the actual info on Kh-38M(L) usage from just talking about the Kh-38M series in general is likely where confusion may have arisen.

On first glance, its reasonable to assume the thing is “real”. Its actually digging into the evidence that starts to paint a different picture imo.

Like I said before tho, id still assume/hope gaijin devs would put more effort into researching the existence of something before adding it into the game…

No there are multiple images of Kh-38M’s mounted on jets ready for combat, they just happen to be Kh-38ML’s, NOT MT’s.

Ppl have already tried posting those images in this thread before, they cant be posted cuz they are of an active conflict. They’re also irrelevant as evidence cuz they arent 38MT’s…