The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JbFJmLBobXQI

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please, think of me a little higher. I would be content if the addition was rejected due to balance. the problem is they denied this addition because of the reason I spoke of above

yeah, thats true

i would imagine that the seeker would be functional, they already have some experience with the older versions like the kh29

well that one might be hard or impossible to find, especially since the kh38 family look very similar from distance

The report above is just forwarded as a suggestion. Like many loadouts, this isnt a surprise, especially when its about adding IRCCM missiles to one of the stronger helis.

Its the missing loadout options like the 540lb retarded bombs on most british aircraft that are a year+ old that annoy me the most. But this off-topic now

Perhaps. but given the inherrent imbalance that exists at top tier currently and how strict they are for everyone else. I think the assumption should be made that it doesnt exist until someone finds the necessary sources to confirm it did exist. and the KH-38MLs arent going anywhere

A bit off topic but would you guys be fine with the Kh-38mt staying if the Eurofighters get to carry 12 of the equally obscure air-to-ground ASRAAM?

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That is kinda the ultimate outcome of this thread. if a mockup of the KH-38MT is enough, then can everyone else get mock-up weapons

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LMFAO no. You got that backwards bubba. They are ~1 secondfaster IRL.

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for me its the missing GNSS+IOG+Laser guided bombs on literally every top tier US plane other than the new f18c

i can tell you exactly how we ended up here:

  • gaijin added the Kh-38 on the Su-25SM3 to make it special
  • they added the Kh-38 on the Su-34 because it wouldnt make sense for it to carry the Kh-29 when the Su-25 is carrying the Kh-38
  • they added the Kh-38 on the Su-30 because it wouldnt make sense for it to carry the Kh-29 when the Su-34 is carrying the Kh-38

so it is a classic case of powercreep
just like the F-15E, the Rafale or EF

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do you have to summon him back?

NGL it makes me hopeful we can get the AAM-4 TDR, the extremely obscure ramjet powered AAM-4 .(Which did actually have a successful test, so it’s actually somewhat fair to get anyways.)

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the thing is all the other MBTs would have more or less the same reload then

Yeah…

It’d certainly make Japan more unique. Hopefully we get it on the F-2.

maybe after we get the f-47 for the US

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mm, thanks. somehow this suggestion zipped past me. to clear things up, I was somewhat quoting a russian game master columbus_13. he wrote a lot of things against the addition of r73 to helicopters on the russian forum. but yes, enough off topic shenanigans

Yes I know what they are… i didn’t ask about that, I was just talking about how the seeker itself is swapped on these I believe. As they are modular

All sources ive seen referring to Kh-38M use during thd conflict explicitly mention the Kh-38ML being the variant used, and/or state the targets are stationnary bridges.

The news articles do mention the MT as an option of the missile, but its always been in a paragraph explaining the missile and basicly just regurgitating the info from the brochures.

From what you’re saying, it sounds like thats what he’s referring as “evidence”. I’d love to actually be able to discuss those sources directly so as to not sound like I’m bending the info in my favour, but I understand the rules and wont.

If mods check a source and confirm it to actually have info confirming the use of the Kh-38MT that cant be posted on the forums, would it be possible to PM it to me for me to double check?

I mean, at this rate…