The JA37 FM needs to be reverted or the BR lowered

I can’t quite agree to the J7E bit, sure you have worse maneuverability, but that is why J7E is at 11.0, it hasn’t got a radar.

Does it not have the Saffir J-band radar? Either way, I had a dogfight with one pre-nerf and it still out-turned me.

It has an I band Marconi radar rangefinder.

Are you talking about the MiG-23’s, not the J-7E?

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Be glad you can turn without having a compressor stall like in real life. You’re not entitled to have better performance than IRL. Despite having upgraded engine you’re still not gonna be able to pull off the trash you do in war thunder

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Mhm…

It’s definitely fine at 11.0 and 11.3 in sim, not sure about RB though

Yeah, only issue I’ve had in simulator battles turning 90-180° and stalling out at 200 mph, when 3 seconds ago I was Mach .9…

Cough cough…

Only time I’ve heard of a Vigg compressor stalling is throttling up on landing because they got their airspeed too low, having an extreme AOA and subsequent crashed, also being in partial of the Thrust-reverser.

Literally none of those maneuvers were close to what you see people do on war thunder. I watched through it fully.

And this is what happens when people fully pull the stick back at low speeds. Now do this in war thunder and you notice that your engine doesn’t go poof. You have an unrealistic buff that lets you keep fightning when you shouldn’t be. You’re not entitled to that so i am not sure why you are complaining?

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TBF this applies to all vehicles if we had to hold all vehicles to this type of standard most german 6.7 tanks would be less armored do to poor steel quality and the list just goes on and on. This is just a poor point imo

(Edit my bad on the quote lol)

Which would mean giving the ja37 it’s compressor stall and not letting people pull the stick full back on low speeds and not have them crash lol

you’re breaking the forum rules. telling someone to shove a stick up their ass just shows how you ran out of any real arguments to make.

Show me a video of you pulling stick full back at low speeds in full real controls and having a compressor stall. You won’t. They won’t die even though they should die.

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Exactly, this isn’t a 1:1 war simulator.

Its a glorified arcade game with pseudo realistic mechanics

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That’s a question mark my friend…

Correct, because no aircraft compressor stall in war thunder…

Oh shit! As for your whole argument to be thrown out the window, if you want full-realistic and full-fideltiy, go play DCS XD.

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Right but if you want to model an aircraft correctly, you have to model the compressor stalls too. You can’t ask for something to be modelled perfectly just to act as if negative things should be ignored
It would be a net nerf so be happy with your unrealistically buffed aircraft that is benefitting unrealistically from gaijins system. No need to buff something that is already buffed way beyond real capabilities.

DCS is “realistic” but i dont think ill ever to something up to a 1 to 1 of flying in my life lol

Absolutely not, but it’s the best you’ll get for now.

Okay, buddy, how exactly is it “BuFfEd WaY bEyoNd iT’s abIlItY” if you know so much about the Vigg? If you want to badmouth a plane for being too unrealistic because of something you can’t just shit on it, you have to shit on every single one of them with the same issue, and then try to find a way to balance it 😊

Just making an astute observation here, but, it seems like the few in the minority that thinks the JA37 is over performing is very vocal about it.