vulcan also has horrendous bullet spread, while the j-7e gun is pin point accurate and you can snipe people in the head on with it at like 1 km with it, vulcan is just spray and pray. and gsh 23 has horrendous ballistics compared to nr 30. a lot of my kills with the j-7e were snipes with the gun in arb
in what world
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whenever the vulcan fires it shoots basically every but where you want to shoot it, like you can’t exactly one tap it for peak precision like you can with the ns 30
This isn’t true an is an illusion. They probably have the same spread but since Vulcan pumps out so many more rounds, it seems more are missing. If you shoot 60 vulcan rounds and 60 NR-30 rounds they probably wouldn’t be all too different.
Vulcan is superior in pretty much every way.
The only gun that really has bad spread at top tier is the naval Mk11 on the F-4J and F-4S
eh at least with the ns30 it’s super easy to get super precise one taps, with the vulcan there’s like a delay between pressing the button to fire and it actually firing, so you end up shooting/wasting a lot more vulcan shots
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yeah you can just hold the trigger for like 30 seconds and nuke anything in front of you
solution: dont fly the su25
Idk, I was playing @ 10.3
A BR step higher is harsh?
It probably is.
It doesn’t have a radar, all aspect AAMs, or any sort of SARH missiles and that greatly limits it’s capability. It certainly isn’t as good as the Mig-23MLs. Not many people above 11.7 will by dying from a rear aspect missile, so it’s forced to be a gunfighter with 6rds of ammo.
Then decompression should be forced through higher BR’s
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Yea I love having a singular gun with 60 rounds of ammo at 11.3
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Why? This is a jet that simply sneaks on people, which is literally a tactic that can be used by any other jet at this BR, apart from the fact that people tend to ignore that fact. In an actual fight there is low likelyhood that if the enemy is aware of you to not sufficiently flare (just throw 1) it. Barring the extremely nice RWR I don’t think there is any reason for Gaijin to undo an entire years decompression and throw it back exactly where it was a year and a half ago.
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Oh our nr30, muzzle velocity is both fast and slow (faster than gsh, but 780 is not fast, but a heavy shell keeps its speed “high”) ; fire rate is both fast and slow ( 850/min consumes ammo quite fast but leaves quite a bit space between shots) ; and damage is both good and bad (one shot explodes and hits)
Cannon of controversy
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Give us the snazzy armaments, and it wouldn’t be all too cruel at 11.0
That aside, J7E could probably go up slightly. The armament, whilst rear aspect, is not remotely inadequate coupled with the platform.
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So the J-7E knew the Su-25 [assuming it’s a 10.3 Su-25] out-dogfights it and chose to survive instead.
I don’t see the problem of aircraft knowing vehicle disparity.
@ares94r
This topic has nothing to do with compression.
The aircraft mentioned are a Nesher which was obviously in a squad, a Su-25, and a J-7E.
None of these are compressed against each other.
Be on-topic instead.
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no it should not 11.7s like the mig23s already are a hard counter
Not to mention is somehow turns better than the viggen…
Very realistic flight modeling gaijin
It’s almost like, maybe something should have a counter.
I believe he meant the J-7E could be moved up if the top BR’s were decompressed.
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