that is wrong
how are the flares better?
rear aspect and not stealth they have a short burn time tho
fun fact the mirage 3 at 10.3 gets the Magic 1, also known as the PL-7
the J-7D has worse flight perforamnce /accel than the 21smt due to a weaker engine
there are ways for the smt to beat the J-7D in raw flight performance
J-7D:
Mig-21SMT:
(note my mig-21smt is fully stock and still has more thrust than the J-7D)
you said china not j7d
you said china not j7d
Ok
whos that
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that is wrong
3x j7d’s in each team in a full downtier, up to 7 per team in 10.7-11.0
how are the flares better?
Positioned near the engine and facing down instead to the sides. It is very easy to kill mig21s with missiles from lag pursuit because of this, the missile will not see the flares, only the heat plume. Also, more flare count (30 more).
rear aspect and not stealth they have a short burn time tho
fun fact the mirage 3 at 10.3 gets the Magic 1, also known as the PL-7
Rear aspect yet i see them launching them frontside aspect on mig23s and similarly hot aircraft. Even head on if you dare edge the incoming bogey in your boresight on gun range.
the J-7D has worse flight perforamnce /accel than the 21smt due to a weaker engine
Spaded MiG21SMT engine does 7100KgF.
The J7D is about 500kg lighter than the SMT (J7D/MiG21MF 5500kg empty, SMT 6000kg empty) and because it doesn’t have flare pod and radar jammer it will absolutely fly better than both MF and SMT. 500Kg lighter, these 300kgf less are negligible.
what is blud now barking about 😭🔫
you’re like a pimple on the sphincter dude, you literally came here insult everyone and act like this is reddit.
Keep acting this way, you are just confirming everyone your lack of decency.
because I disagree with you, presumably
J-7d actually wins quite easily due to being a lot lighter. Plus, the acceleration of the smt is actually worse than the j-7d until super high speed due to again, the weight. The fuel spine in the smt kinda kills its performance.
Turn:
Acceleration:
Therefore at relevant dogfighting speeds the j-7d is a straight upgrade on the smt
Bro what 12.0 already get sucked to 12.7 or 13.0 all the time played like 100 matches in f1c not a single was down tier or let alone 12.0 problem again is decompression 14.0 needs to go to 15.0 in
Man this thread is nothing just cope against j7d 😂 omgg so much copee
Its the PTSD from top tier RWR😂
To be honest i wanted to spiral climb him for the tornado, but realised he pulled crazy AOA and aborted- u can see the point i realised he was going to get guns on and went back full verical.
Riddle me this though i started playing the jap squadron 11.3 F5 last night.
I feel like i played quite alot of ganes- not at PC so cant check but had 1 full uptier and only seen 12.0 a few times.
Iv noticed this playing the J7E and AV8B as well. 11.0 is cursed to full uptiers 90% of the time.
Also the jap F5 is on a different level than 11.0 F5, only just unlocked the pythons b4 bed so its going to slap even more. Just having all aspect missiles is a gamechanger.
surely you have experienced such handholding and can say that based on your own playtime in those handheld jets… haha, would be really ridiculous if you just said this because you struggle to counterplay some particular jets china has…
are you referring to j8b? cus thats a really bad comparison
I play 12.0 and 12.3 alot and both BRs i dont even notice the uptiers.
The game cant be fixed unless 0.7 up/ down or decompress
8.3, 9 3, 11.0, 13.0 are where the pain lives. All get completly dominated and for some reason its a uptier fest nearlt every game.
8.0 and 9.0 and 11.3 are all great. Its a very strange set up…
Do you disagree with this? I also saw a j7d’s pl5b flying through flares undeterred onto a su22.
j8b has insane performance xro. Much higher than MiG21 bis.
not really, j8 trades its high speed performance for better low speed performance
also in NO WAY is it an equivalent to kfir c7
its also a br step higher, with less missiles, no all aspect ir missiles
id say its actually a pretty well balanced plane
Yeah not even 50 matches and 51% and 7d teams not winning all the matches 😞 your cope I feel it
I also saw a j7d’s pl5b flying through flares undeterred onto a su22.
Once again I implore you to check the replay using sensor view, pl5b can be one flared quite easily. It’s all about the situation however. You cannot judge a missiles flare resistance without considering the situation, even aim9b can ‘ignore’ flares. It doesn’t say anything to proclaim the missile just flies through flares without context.
It’s is easily flare-able but rhe problem start when the j7d is like 1km behind pl5 acceleration is good so by the time you drop flare they get to max temp pl5 is already inside but if you drop even 1 flared when it gets launched it is flare hungry
