especially because most J7D players seem to have an obsession with climbing to altitude, and their very bad SPO-10 RWR does not do them any favors defending against radar missiles
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The J7E is in the chinese tree too , the F-5T and E can be easily defeated by forcing one circle dogfights or disengaging to extend and force a reversal (trust me, you as a mig21 have all the privileges to extend, the most OP characteristic of a fighter is the brilliance at being able not to be involved in any fight. Pick the J7D’s speed and engine power with the sheer range and acceleration of pl-5b’s)
The F-4E is indeed good but it’s not better, it’s still a non doppler radar and trust me again, it won’t work below 3km of altitude unless the enemy is way above your horizon. The MiG21 radar works well at sea level by having such a short lock envelope that it completely ignores clutter.
11.3 is way too high for a Mig-21SMT with better missiles
Therefore yes, 11.3 is good enough. Since MiG21 SMT is a 10.7 performing aircraft, why wouldn’t precisely a MiG21 SMT with better missiles not be 11.3? Then you look at the J7E, why would a plane that outperforms the f-16c in a dogfight not be 11.7? Then ONCE again, why wouldn’t the J8B be 11.3 if it’s basically a better Kfir Canard with chaff resistant SARH and a doppler radar? China air tree is definitely designed for sidestick operators (both an euphemism and a badge of honor for airbus pilots, who do barely nothing because airbus aircraft fly on their own)
It’s just so oppressive because it gets a fair bit of downtiers, and very few full uptiers.
It’s just so oppressive because it does not get many downtiers (since i main the f-5c and i barely get downtiers, i keep killing mig23s head on with aim9e’s because it’s funny), it’s so oppressive because most of the things it faces are flareless planes or attackers that will do nothing but contribute for the pl5 missile’s tunnel vision. Speaking of killing mig23mld’s head on with an aim9e, if this is doable with one of the worst pivoting boresight missiles in game, now imagine with the pl-5b which can be launched from a side-front aspect.
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They’re slow and play by the same rules as the Zero does. People who engage die, sad thing is everyone can NOT engage with them. The F-8U/E are better than both of the f-5s because they have actually some thrust and good missiles to skonk on people from far away without being seen.
It is funny because it’s true; the f-5c and the f-5e are in the same situation as the zero and the n1k2. The difference is that if you die to a zero or an n1k you get laughed at, but if you die to a f-5 then you’re given the freedom to whine about it even despite the f-5s are for some reason ridiculously easy to reverse even on a slatted phantom. Maybe because america?
F-5’s ability to turn extremely well while losing minimal energy overall is why it’s so good combined with its excellent dm and cold engines
the engines aren’t cold, they reach up to 700 celsius easily. I’ve had people launch r60m’s at me that also ignored flares… from head on. I also did launch r60m’s head on against f-5s that also ignored flares.
The F-5C either turns quickly and dumps all it’s speed or turns widely without losing energy. This lets it stay at mach 0.89 at all times having enough leverage to position itself, but it doesn’t give it leverage to extend or climb because you really need to align your stars to keep the f-5s on track. The first thing you have to consider is that the f-5’s thrust only hits peak at speeds around mach 0.8 and 1.02, the second thing you have to consider is that going vertical is a death sentence because you will obey the laws of physics consequently losing your peak thrust speed. The third thing you have to constantly tap negative elevator to stay at those speeds and while you’re at it you become vulnerable.
The f-5 is really good at lurking around undetected and pounce on you the moment you get slow. If you stay fast you will never get killed by an f-5c or e, unless of course, it’s an export variant with superior missiles alas while sitting at the same BR as the C and E with two low g missiles.
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The F-4E is indeed good but it’s not better, it’s still a non doppler radar and trust me again, it won’t work below 3km of altitude unless the enemy is way above your horizon. The MiG21 radar works well at sea level by having such a short lock envelope that it completely ignores clutter.
That’s a bit disingenuous. The main downside would be that it is a lot easier to chaff, the radar works alright above 100m height. These are just a two clips from my last couple of games I played to test the radar (ignore the free bird solo):
well i picked f-4e soon after patch day and the radar didn’t work at all, looks like they fixed it. I remember I had a carry where I killed 8 people, launching sparrows top do down pretty close to the ground.
Still, the j7d is better, it can also toe to toe with the mig21 bis in a dogfight.
Wait till i got the Chinese full tree. Even an Low/average player has k/d 2. On this monster
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i agree, most j7d players are completely clueless and yet they still manage to get two kills per game before dying. It should be moved to either 11.3 or limited the amount to 2 j7d per team.
It’s flight performance is already too high for 10.7, now focus on the missiles. It’s a great counter for the j35xs, since j35xs’ major advantage is being able to outrun r60s.
I sum it up again: it has the best flare dispenser position, it has double the amount of flares of any 10.7 in game, it has four 35g almost all-aspect missiles that reach over mach 4 and 4km at sea level, it has great flight performance and unlike most mig21s it’s damage model is quite tough. If people are crying to move the mig21 smt to 10.7 then Move j7d to 11.3.
Almost your entire post, like, and comment history is crying and complaining. Cry and complain and cry and complain and cry cry cry. Do you actually enjoy playing this game, or do you keep playing just so you can lose and vent on the forums? Fascinating.
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Almost your entire post, like, and comment history is crying and complaining. Cry and complain and cry and complain and cry cry cry. Do you actually enjoy playing this game, or do you keep playing just so you can lose and vent on the forums? Fascinating.
Can you stop at once and thinnk about what i’m talking about? Say, address the points and answer with something that can counter my arguments? or are you just going to spend the whole time you invest in wt bullying props in the bi and provide nothing to my posts? You write like a literal child (Cry and complain and cry and complain and cry cry cry, and your chat record in africamod custom lobby). Try playing something that is not an excessively overpowered vehicle and face these overpowered vehicles you play, maybe you will feel like I do some day.
You act like a literal child. You spend hours a day complaining and emotionally arguing with strangers. It’s embarrassing.
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it is also known that you project your issues onto others.
I may complain a lot, but I at least post points in a polite way and interact within the topic, while all you do is throw insults, derail the topic into the issues you speculate i have and countercope.
I tend to ignore people who do not provide anything to the conversation.Consider yourself privileged.
The flight performance and missiles are both very good at 10.7, and I can agree that it can be moved to 11.0 based on those characteristics. It is pretty comparable to the bis, with a fair tradeoff being 2 less missiles for a better missile kit.
However pushing it to 11.3 is just ridiculous, at 11.3 you get either radar missiles or good all aspect IR missiles. Do you honestly think the J-7D should be in the same BR as JA37C (PD radar and good radar missiles), F-5E FCU (very good flight performance and good 4 all aspect IR missiles) or F-4E (4 good radar missiles, 4 decent IR missiles and good speed)?
In 1v1 dogfight dueling I am sure you could make a good case for such a high BR, but in Air RB you are not really 1v1 dogfighting. Radar missiles are effective even with bad radars, all aspect missiles do hit and the amount of missiles matters a lot.
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this is true however the j7d is SPAMMED and either gaijin should limit the amount of aircraft of some type or move it upwards. Three J7D per team is already a bad sign, but it’s always 4 to 7, and the team with most j7d’s is usually the one winning.
The dogfight thing is true, and it’s equally applicable to the f-5c and f-5e. Had Gaijin given the F-5C two aim9j’s and the f-5e four of them it would be a relevant aircraft fun to use with enough resources to fit. These two are just the zero (c) and n1k2 (e) of the BR, and put to shame by the Thai f-5e and the new added f-5s with aim9l’s sharing BR with the f-5e.
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The spam is just what happens every single big sale. I have had almost full lobbies of F-4S and MIG-23ML previous sales. I would not say that it is a bad sign, just the sale being effective and people wanting to play their new fancy jets. In two weeks you will see the J-7D much less.
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the f-4s is easy to defeat, the mig23 ml not so much, the j7d is faced by… ugh.
In two weeks you will see the J-7D much less.
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Because it only has rear aspect IR missiles which greatly limits its capability.
Because the J-7D isn’t considerably better than the 11.0 Mig-21Bis.
Its radar is not a Doppler radar, and it’s actually quite bad. It has no ACM mode and it’s very weak overall. The J-8 is also much worse than the Mig-23ML at 11.7.
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Because it only has rear aspect IR missiles which greatly limits its capability.
Side aspect to be specific, front aspect when it’s phantoms and mig23s/mig29s.
Because the J-7D isn’t considerably better than the 11.0 Mig-21Bis.
That’s why it has better missiles and slightly better top speed than the mig21 mf?
Its radar is not a Doppler radar, and it’s actually quite bad. It has no ACM mode and it’s very weak overall. The J-8 is also much worse than the Mig-23ML at 11.7.
my bad i mistook it for the j8f. J8B doesn’t even have acm mode.