Just move it down to 13.3, the Fox 3 missiles the J-11A have function as Fox 1s (until pitbull) because it retains the old N001 radar with a single data link channel. This basically removes the biggest advantage Fox 3 missiles are meant to have, in my opinion the current J-11A is somewhat equal to the MiG-29SMT.
It also has the god awful SPO-15LM which is absolutely useless at this battle rating, you can’t discriminate what aircraft is lighting you up and what specific direction.
Thing is decompression benefits everyone. Also why move it to 13.3 when it is a straight upgrade over the regular J-11. Don’t say move regular J-11 to 13.0. The zombers would struggle against any actual ER slinger.
Fact the F16 is 76 - 1 in aerial combat. 2100+ in service in multiple 3rd world countries. By your logic the F16s should have more losses. They don’t because Migs are over hyped junk in reality
The USA unlike the Soviets provided extensive training and maintenance for aircraft they sell, this will affect the overall performance of a aircraft in the field of war. The MiG-21 and F-16 are also decades apart, most of the kills the F-16 have are against obsolete fighters.
The fact remains, the Mig-21 didn’t score the kill, except for his friendly fire kill
I’ve provided pretty compelling images and a good argument, just skip over it should we?
The J-11A should have its R27-ERs removed. It has the wrong radar/year to use them. It wasn’t outfitted with the R27-ER until its upgrade to the N001VE. I made a report showing this
It’s a fact that the J-11A used the N001VE, the inaccuracy is the radar rather than the missile itself. They’re just playing ignorant and labelling all secondary sources as "untrustworthy".
@Malekitth
More like F-15C MSIP II needs to be put to 14.0 as the sole 14.0 in the game until Typhoon and Rafale are added, along with further equivalent aircraft.
I see Doc’s posts are spreading misinfo about aircraft again, derailing the topic.
In my opinion, F-15C MSIP II with AN/APG-63(V)1 radar in early 2000’s can’t counter Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 1 standard
I doubt gajin decompressing max BR to 14.0 for aircraft top tier in Q1 2025
Gajin might ready 5th gen IR AAM on fighter aircraft 14.0 BR and higher
Typhoon Tranche 1/2 uses a similarly powerful radar, and has access to an identical weapon load.
Did you not read my post… I said the F22A and EF-T1 should come together in game…
I said the F15C is fine where its at and should not be moved. It competes against the R27-ER and R73s as it is. Unless they plan to give it the Aim-120C-7, Aim-120D, and Aim9X it carries.
All of his missiles were recovered. No F16 parts were recovered. So he clearly didn’t shoot down the F16, the only confirmed kill he had was friendly fire.
EF Typhoon T1 should only be brought into game with the F22A
Absolutely not, they’re an entire different generation apart and comparing one to another is silly. The Eurofighter and F-22 are NOT equivalents.
All of his missiles were recovered. No F16 parts were recovered. So he clearly didn’t shoot down the F16, the only confirmed kill he had was friendly fire
I connected a fragment of a Pakistani F-16 in my post, you clearly either didn’t see it or ignored it.
Typhoon is not and has never been a stealth aircraft.
Typhoon is and always has been F-15C MSIP II equivalent in everything other than dogfight.
What the heck am i reading, also crazy off topic.
This is a No and will always be a No. The reason is the same that is given when people ask for WW2 tanks to not fight certain “cold war” or a lil further in time vehicles that would do absolutely NOTHING if brought up in BR if things remain this way in terms of gameplay. It is a matter of balance, not historical accuracy.
F22A + EF-T1 + J15 + SU-33 is entirely balanced
You did not just put the F-22 and the SU-33 in the same god damn sentence, you’ve invalidated the authenticity of everything said prior with this statement. The J-15 is FAR superior to the SU-33 let alone the F-22 and Eurofighter.
We need to let aircraft fight aircraft they were up against IRL
Vehicles like the SU-25 would be absolute garbage against a F-15 for example, historical battle rating would ruin the game as we know it.
Please keep going with the discussion privately, it is off topic.
Lmao at pitting J-15 vs F-22
I don’t even know why people still feed this lunatic
He’s clearly a completely debased US main
This is complete rubbish. The AIM-120A is better than R-27ER (overall not kinematics).
In what way is it overperforming?
F4s have 290 kills on early mig 21s and Mig15/17s, is that really a fair fight or is it just supersonic jets with radar BVR capability AIM9/AIM7 bullying subsonic dogfighters with 23mm/30mm?
And your “suggestion” to this cosmic injustice is to… add 5th generation aircraft? Im sorry, but are you nuts or just as bright as brick? Maybe Snail also should add ASAP J-20 for the sake of unique domestic aircraft to Chinese tree and by doing this meanwhile fixing their lackluster top tier?
After the Cold War the Russian Air Force received major budget cuts, so they were not as advanced as the USA then and still aren’t. We have these newer aircraft in game because they are comparable to older NATO aircraft. It is for balance purposes.
This discussion has gone way off the rails.
Bro, do you realize that the J-11A in-game currently has the N001 radar, and the SU-27SM has the N001VEP radar while being heavier? The R-73 is not the best IR in the game, and the aim-9m is way more versatile. Do you realize the E model is just the export version? It is the same as the R73. Gaijin could have added more unique Chinese planes like the J-9s, J-10s, and J-7l, but Gaijin has been lazy. If you said China isn’t a unique tree and shouldn’t exist, why don’t you say that about the Israel tree? I know you have no idea what you are talking about, and you are just an American fanboy. Why are you digging yourself a hole?