The J-11A Is The Worst 13.7 (Updated)

Please keep going with the discussion privately, it is off topic.

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@TPS_Hydra Just pm them and keep the discussion there. The topic has derailed enough.

Lmao at pitting J-15 vs F-22

I don’t even know why people still feed this lunatic
He’s clearly a completely debased US main

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This is complete rubbish. The AIM-120A is better than R-27ER (overall not kinematics).

In what way is it overperforming?

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F4s have 290 kills on early mig 21s and Mig15/17s, is that really a fair fight or is it just supersonic jets with radar BVR capability AIM9/AIM7 bullying subsonic dogfighters with 23mm/30mm?

And your “suggestion” to this cosmic injustice is to… add 5th generation aircraft? Im sorry, but are you nuts or just as bright as brick? Maybe Snail also should add ASAP J-20 for the sake of unique domestic aircraft to Chinese tree and by doing this meanwhile fixing their lackluster top tier?

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After the Cold War the Russian Air Force received major budget cuts, so they were not as advanced as the USA then and still aren’t. We have these newer aircraft in game because they are comparable to older NATO aircraft. It is for balance purposes.

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This discussion has gone way off the rails.

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Bro, do you realize that the J-11A in-game currently has the N001 radar, and the SU-27SM has the N001VEP radar while being heavier? The R-73 is not the best IR in the game, and the aim-9m is way more versatile. Do you realize the E model is just the export version? It is the same as the R73. Gaijin could have added more unique Chinese planes like the J-9s, J-10s, and J-7l, but Gaijin has been lazy. If you said China isn’t a unique tree and shouldn’t exist, why don’t you say that about the Israel tree? I know you have no idea what you are talking about, and you are just an American fanboy. Why are you digging yourself a hole?

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and J11A is new

Don’t be goofy, the J-11A is just a domestically built SU-27SK and the one you’re thinking of is the J-11A upgraded to J-11B standards which is also just a upgraded domestic SU-27SK.

You’ve been acting absolutely obnoxious, educate yourself before you claim absolutely false things

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J15 = J11B + T-10K-3 if i remember correctly

The J-15 is not based off the serial production SU-33 but rather the Ukrainian T-10K-3 like you said, DocUSMC is just goofy and eyeballing his answers.

The J-15 also shares many avionic similarities to the J-11B but retains the old AL-31 engine unlike later production J-11Bs.

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Actually some of them have ws-10’s.

Only the post 2022 production batches have the WS-10 which makes them a far minority, the vast majority or like 90% still use the AL-31 engine.

But AIM120 can fire and forget, R27 launcher as to run right into AIM120 if he wants to keep guiding R27. ARAAM allows better survivability.

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J-11A is not worth 13.7. I really don’t know what is in those dev’s mind. They should bring back nation based matchmaking and get rid of mixed battles, then they will realize who is dominating.

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I really dont know how many times people have to say it… and thats like only half of them…

Even I have a hard time trying to figure out whats on topic reading it all…

So… if some are saying… “you’re actually spamming off topic garbage”… then, it is Off Topic… and you need to take it to PM as some have asked, or take it to existing topics…

Thread might be bit messed up to follow, because I had to remove “garbage” and may have removed some on topic stuff… so, sorry about that…

So… for now on, it stays on Topic…

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Talk about beating a dead horse…

I really don’t know what is in those dev’s mind

The simplest way to put it is either laziness or neglection, the J-11A still has the textured pylons from the SU-27SM from the last major update which was over a month ago.

We’re at least getting the J-10A however if leaks are correct, if they butcher it then I deadass might drop China however (top tier at least).

Oh yeah and the J-11A we’ve got in-game is ahistorical, it should have the N001VE and a later generation Chinese RWR.

Maybe @DocUSMC should have some time away, he has spent all evening quarrelling about the ‘sheer suffering’ of the current best aircraft in game (f-15c msip II) because it doesn’t have a datalink or Aim-120C7, no clue why this was flagged but ig someone doesn’t like the truth.

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If the J-10A comes and it is comparable to the Gripen and F-16s then I will be a very happy man

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