You don’t have any israeli jet and you are here arguing about the sufa
I don’t have to own any specific vehicle to talk about any specific vehicle, especially with a wide range of experience involving the large majority of the game’s aviation. Further, I haven’t said anything here you have openly disagreed with besides talking about the aim-120 which has nothing to do with the israeli F-16.
If you did you would quickly reach the conclusion that the sufa is over BR’d
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f-16i can easily be 13.7, it’s at most a sidegrade to the 16c, not better or worse (air to air wise) (imo it’s worse than the c due to worse missiles but subjective).
OFC air to ground it’s vastly superior
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I’m sure you think that, as you’ve shown that you already think that is the correct outcome. However, you have failed to consider that people can do that weird “disagree with you” thing and that your opinion is not always correct. I have to tell you though, you’re not very convincing.
Have a good one :)
what makes the f-16i so superior compared to the f-16c that’s at 13.7 that warrants 14.0
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Likewise. You have not given any logical counterpoint to justify it being 14.0
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Agreed, it’s a much easier argument to say that it deserves 13.7, although saying it deserves 13.3 is a bit much.
f-16i gets the second best f-16 fm after the f-2, as well as having hmd and 9ms which neither of those planes have.
It also gets a million cms and a great maws.
Compared to the d gets vastly superior fm, albeit imo much worse missiles (id unironically rather have the derby than 120c5)
same ir missiles
would be balanced at 13.7, 14.0 is a bit overtiered, 13.3 it would slam
13.7 would be more suitable. I am constantly bringing up the F-16D because I see that as a better option at 13.3. But the F-16D should be 13.7 in my opinion
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You’ll note I never said it couldn’t change from 14.0. You work yourself up over nothing every day? Must be tough.
Why even argue then if you agree with him
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Because we disagree on specific things? You can try reading the thread, usually gives you the info you need.
Then it seems to me that it is you who likes to “work yourself up” over nothing. Why are you arguing about it then?
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It’s even worse when someone who WAS HERE in the thread, does not understand.
Try reading a thread from top to bottom. It usually has the context to why people say the things they do. You’ll note I disagreed with and replied to very specific, highlighted, quoted parts of what you said.
https://www.readingrockets.org/reading-101/reading-101-learning-modules
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Sufa and the ADF/F-16D are about equivalents in my opinion but I would choose the ADF over the sufa for 2 very good reasons. Loadout and FM.
how is the f-16adf better in fm than the f-16i? f-16i has better bleed rates, sustained, and gain rates over the f-16adf. It also has better acceleration than the adf as well. the only thing the f-16 adf is better in is instantaneous turn, and it loses more speed in that turn compared to the sufa.
Where did you take that information from? Statshark is wrong on the sufa as far as I can tell
Really? I did just take it form statshark, what’s wrong with it in there
I tested on the dev server. The FM is poor. Has a bit stronger acceleration at slow speeds over the F-16C but then you get hit by the added spine drag that both the sufa and the F-16D suffer from. And it is the worst turning F-16.
Should have the higher top speed now among all F-16s but that’s it (by a small margin)
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My bad sry